Hi Donna,

They have the braille sense working quite nicely with mac OS at this point.  
You can transfer files back and fourth using mobile disc mode, or you can use 
it as a usb or bluetooth braille terminal.

The sense is just ridiculous with jaws and you can forget all about it since 
driver signing emerged in version 11.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
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On 2010-11-19, at 6:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Erik,
> 
> Are you saying that the braille sense works as a braille display with the 
> Mac?  I had so many headaches trying to get it to work with JAWs that I 
> didn't even try.  This would be very handy if it does.
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Nov 19, 2010, at 6:27 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hum,  Well, the victor stream and booksense both work on the mack.  
>> Braillesense works.  Braille note apex works as a braille terminal.  I 
>> haven't tested file transfering capabilities.  I haven't tested packmate, 
>> but so far that looks to me like more than 10% of notetaking devices right 
>> there, more like 50 percent between compatible and non.  Then add the 
>> braille display support with read/write.  Not everything works beautifully, 
>> but then it doesn't do that under windows either.  Your vr might want to do 
>> a little more research.
>> 
>> On the other hand, it's much easier to justify the mac for a student if the 
>> student is in a mac school.  If the school is all outfitted with windows and 
>> all the classes are geared to windows, then it doesn't follow that a mac 
>> won't work, it just seems to make it easier on the student and their 
>> teachers and support people to be using windows like everyone else in the 
>> class.
>> 
>> And before the uproar hits, I know just as many die hard mac users blind and 
>> sighted who got there in this exact way.  Their school used macs, so they 
>> used macs and never dealt with windows.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>> person,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2010-11-18, at 6:01 PM, eddy wrote:
>> 
>>> hey eveyone, I am a mac os x user who really likes the way voice over
>>> works. I have organizations like. DBS division of blind servises and
>>> other giving their clients who request computers Dell laptops with
>>> Jaws screen reader installed. what I am aware of is that Jaws alone is
>>> more than a thousand dollars recently I her two thousand. I wonder why
>>> organizations like DBS don't just give their client a macbook or a
>>> machbook pro and be done with it. then they whon't have to pay for
>>> Jay. and the client can use voice  over which in  my opinion has a
>>> shorter learning curve. I also recently asked a Vision teacher or V.I
>>> teacher and she answered that at leat 70=90 percent  of note takers,
>>> and all other digital devices are not comopatible with mac os x.
>>> I would like to know what you guys think about this. and if there are
>>> any high school and college students who are blind or visually
>>> impaired, Is  a Mac with voice over sufficient enough for all school
>>> work or do you still need a note taker?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thank you
>>> 
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