kill is a unix command for stopping a process. The kill -9 is like yanking the 
rug out from under something. There is nothing graceful about it. Some 
processes should never be stopped using it. If you really need to blow a 
process away, you may just be better off to reboot your mac. 

Kev
On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Ah, leave it to Scott to bring us some grace.:)  I haven't a clue what y'all 
> are talking about.  But I guess I should know this in case Alex ever decides 
> to give me the silent treatment.  I don't recall an initial post on this but 
> better save these in a backup for future reference.
> To all who care:  Happy Thanksgiving
>  
> Carolyn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Granados
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: The KillAll command
> 
> Whoa -9 and -hup do * not * do the same thing.
> 
> 
> -9 is a kill all with no graceful shutdown.  -HUP is a restart, -1 is a 
> graceful shutdown.
> 
> 
> On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric and Nic,
>> 
>> Thanks much -- the -9 seems to cause a restart, hence appears to have the 
>> identical affect of the -hup parm.
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> True enough. -HUP accomplishes the same thing, though, but of course the 
>>> parameters mean something different. I always just use -9 to ensure it 
>>> actually quits, and it's just as efficient in the long-run. And, it's less 
>>> parameters to type.
>>> 
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>>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> the killall command works. -9 will simply force it to quit. I prefer the 
>>>> use of killall -HUP VoiceOver as it forces a reset of voiceover without 
>>>> going through all the issues of restarting it via keystrokes.  btw, you 
>>>> must capitalize the V and the O otherwise it will not find the process 
>>>> name.
>>>> 
>>>> -Eric
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> I meant to reply to one of Nic's recent posts, but  deleted it.  He 
>>>>> suggested that if VO goes silent one could enter terminal into spotlight 
>>>>> and then enter -- I forget the exact command but believe it was 
>>>>> killallall -9 voiceover.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried this with and without the extra "all" and also tried inserting a 
>>>>> space between the two alls, but only receive a message that no matching 
>>>>> processes were found.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to get this right in case I do experience a vo crash.  May not 
>>>>> have recalled the parm Nic mentioned, but I did use the one he specified 
>>>>> (which may not have been -9).
>>>>> 
>>>>> TIA for any clarification, and best regards.
>>>>> Geoff
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