the only way to get adobe's attention is to hit them in the wallet, HARD.
if all 15 million visually impaired in the US were to join in on a class action 
against adobe because of their flash player, that would make a hell of a class 
action and really get adobe's attention. 

-Eric

On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> I'm glad that at some point Flash may become a thing of the past, but I 
> suspect it will be several years before it happens. In particular with 
> respect to higher education. I certainly complained to the university I 
> attended and made zero progress. The solution was to simply require the 
> instructor to come up with an alternate assignment, which worked, but is not 
> addressing the issue. Even the agency I work for uses flash and I have tried 
> to get them looking for alternatives, but people like flash because they 
> really do not have to put out a lot of effort to complete a project.
> Just my thoughts, but as far as I know Adobe has no plans to make anything 
> accessible for the Mac despite any petition.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
>> Events are rapidly overtaking adobe and flash in terms of html 5.0. Very 
>> probably once that comes out adobe flash will be able to be put in the junk 
>> software museum and left there as a particularly bad relic for the future.  
>> Another problem for web petitions is those are often used by spam artists to 
>> collect valid email addresses for their own uses.
>> 
>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey list,
>>> 
>>> I remember about 16 months ago, i participated in a petition made by 
>>> maccessibility in regards to making the flash player accessible.
>>> 
>>> I remember that they said it would take another 18 months to get that 
>>> through. Well, the date is about to be reached, and with all this talk 
>>> about flash eating up ressources, battery and being as open as a lidless 
>>> jar of cookies, pun intended, i really don't care what they might do and at 
>>> which rate, but it would be interesting to know if they have even gone 
>>> forward on that.
>>> 
>>> Just saying this because i've been looking into the lumigo T1 andro?d phone 
>>> holding bang and olufsen hardware within, and saught to look into some of 
>>> the accessibility inherent to that phone. And flash is probably prominent.
>>> 
>>> Another area in which flash is rather ubiquitous are the shockwave powered 
>>> online courses.
>>> 
>>> It's a bit of a frustration not being able to take certain courses because 
>>> flash has pasted itself all over the net.
>>> 
>>> This just makes me reminisce when i was having loads of fun creating 
>>> futuristic interfaces.
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>> 
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