Hi Scott,

Yup,  I agree with you.

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On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> I guess you could make the argument that any revenue Apple makes goes to 
> support of developing VoiceOver. ALthough your thinking out loud does bring 
> up an interesting point. Would the revenue generated from iTunes sales go to 
> support Apple's store efforts where software and hardware sales would be more 
> likely to fund those projects? I imagine Apple like most businesses probably 
> do have various buckets used for funding the various projects. However, in 
> the end the money probably goes wherever it is needed. :)
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:29 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> Why would the 99 cents for a ringtone go to voiceover?  Wouldn't that more 
>> than likely come from sales of IOS products?  I know it makes no difference 
>> either way.  I'm just thinking out loud. lol
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> Apple wants to motivate you to use their 99 cents per song service to
>>> get your ringtones.
>>> 
>>> That's why building your own is so fiddly.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, that 99 cents per song helps to pay for voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 07:54:11PM +0000, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> Why can't we just put an mp3 file in the ring tone section of Itunes?  all 
>>>> the other smart phones accept mp3 files as ring tones so I don't 
>>>> understand why the I phone can't?
>>>> On 5 Dec 2010, at 19:22, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a rehash of a message I posted to the viphone list a while ago
>>>>> about getting ringtones from the iTunes store and a little about
>>>>> creating your own from scratch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy, and feel free to reply with questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I spent some time playing with ringtones this morning.  Here are a few
>>>>> things to note.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First, one can not buy ringtones directly from the iTunes store.  Even
>>>>> if one searches for ringtones, what one can find and buy is an m4a
>>>>> (music) version of the file.   To create ringtones with iTunes, 
>>>>> one has to buy the music file first, and then pay the iTunes store an
>>>>> additional 99 cents before iTunes will convert that music file into a
>>>>> ringtone.  Let me reiterate this, if you are going to use the iTunes
>>>>> store to get ringtones, you have to pay the iTunes store twice.  Once
>>>>> to buy the music, and then again to pay for permission to convert it
>>>>> to a ringtone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once you've decided to pay the extra 99 cents to the apple store,
>>>>> here's how you make a ringtone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) In the menu bar, go to Edit, Preferences, and make sure Ringtones
>>>>> is checked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) find the music file you want to make a ring tone out of, and select
>>>>> it.  Again, it must be music that was purchased from the iTunes store.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) in the menu bar, Go to store, create ringtone.  This brings up a
>>>>> sound editor kind of like Goldwave.  From here, you select the 30
>>>>> seconds of audio you want.  Note that voiceover doesn't work with
>>>>> this part, so if you don't have sighted assistance you're stuck
>>>>> with the first 30 seconds of the song, which is the default
>>>>> selection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) click the buy button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5) The ringtone will download and appear in your ringtones folder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, let me point out that one does not need to use iTunes to
>>>>> create ringtones, but other methods require additional software to do
>>>>> your music editing, and a lot of general fiddling around with files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> here are the basic steps, without the details of how to use each program.
>>>>> Several of us on this list know how to use Goldwave and iTunes if you
>>>>> need assistance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Take your music file and use an audio editor (like Goldwave) to
>>>>>   create a ringtone segment.  That is, a small (30 secs or less)
>>>>>   slice of the music, that will be your ringtone.   Note that
>>>>>   Goldwave can read and edit AAC files (files you bought from the
>>>>>   iTunes store), but will save your segment as an mp3 file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Use iTunes to convert this segment to AAC format.  NOTE: if you
>>>>>   can't find a "convert to AAC" option in the applications menu,
>>>>>   check your CD import settings and make sure they are set to
>>>>>   import CDs as AAC files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) Rename the new segment file from whatever.m4a to whatever.m4r
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) In iTunes, import the .m4r file.  control+o will bring up the
>>>>>   import dialog, and then find and import the .m4r file.  This
>>>>>   will put the m4r file in your ringtones folder, and will sync it
>>>>>   to your iPhone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope this sheds some light on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 10:41:15AM -0800, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this the method I can also use to get ring tones into my library?  
>>>>>> God knows then how I'll get them to my phone, I'm hoping a sync will do 
>>>>>> it, but first I have to figure out how to get them from downloads to my 
>>>>>> library.  I'm going to try your instructions below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marlaina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi chenelle,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you've imported an Audio Book from CD and you wish it to be placed in 
>>>>>> the books portion of the sources List, do the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.  Select the book or books from the music library and then press cmd-i 
>>>>>> for Get Info.
>>>>>> 2.  Press on the Options tab.
>>>>>> 3.  Press on the Kind pop-up and change it to Audio Book.
>>>>>> 4.  Press OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All items that were selected will now be placed in the Books area of the 
>>>>>> Sources List.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2010-12-05, at 10:50 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi eric,
>>>>>>> i wanted to know  when putting  audio compact disc books like in the 
>>>>>>> case of the harry potter series. how do i devide m my music library and 
>>>>>>> the audio book library? also  this question can be answered off list if 
>>>>>>> possible. i wanted to know where i could go to purchase the harry 
>>>>>>> potter  united kingdom  editions at? fill free to email me with  your 
>>>>>>> answer to that question. 
>>>>>>> i really appreciate it.
>>>>>>> sincerely, chenelle
>>>>>>> thanks again eric.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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