Hi Brett,

The 3D is a brand-new feature, and I'm not sure that it's accessible with 
VoiceOver.  My understanding is that it uses the camera and superposes the 
letters for the search results on the field, with larger letters for closer 
matches.  I think it's a visual only feature -- the idea is that if you hold 
your iPhone with camera up in different directions, you'll see the locations of 
nearby POI matches in the direction that they lie, with the matches that are 
closer in bigger fonts.  So, if you're trying to find out which direction to 
walk in, you'd view the words for the match of a particular POI in that 
direction as you move your iPhone around, and you can tap on the entry to find 
more information.  I don't think this is usable with VoiceOver if you don't 
have vision.  You have to remember that I'm using Where To? on an iPod Touch or 
iPad -- without a camera.  So these options don't come up for me.  Also, 
whether you get links to public transportation web pages may depend on your 
location. This is just how it works for me.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:42, Brett Campbell wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I just purchased Where to?  My first concern is there is a message selling 3D 
> that gets in the way.  I can't find a way to dismiss it.  The message says 
> the window will be skipped after purchasing.  If I purchase the 3D just to 
> get rid of the message, do you think the 3D will mess with VoiceOver?
> I also have a question about the Bus stops.  I'm able to find the stops just 
> fine, but I'm not able to get additional information on bus times.  When I 
> tap on the more information button, I seem to just get the stop labeled as a 
> map pin.  I don't appear to get more information by double tapping the map 
> pin.  I'm not seeing the Next Transport option Esther mentioned.  I'm also 
> not seeing the next or previous menu mentioned.  I'm wondering if the 3D 
> sales pitch is getting in the way.  I usually do quite well at figuring apps 
> out, but I'm a little stumped here.
> 
> 
> Brett C.
> 
> On Feb 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Neil and Others,
>> 
>> Where To? by FutureTap is certainly worth the $0.99 (U.S.) Valentine's Day 
>> sale price.  It was the first of the helper applications for GPS points of 
>> interest (in the same class as the free AroundMe app by Tweaker Soft) to add 
>> the capability to send results to GPS apps such as Navigon and TomTom, as 
>> well as to the default Maps app.  AroundMe only added this feature later.  
>> As Geoff described, the primary difference between Where To? and AroundMe is 
>> the more detailed divisions of categories and sub-categories for Where To?  
>> This can make it easier to locate specific points of interest more quickly 
>> -- for example, Geoff gave the example of restaurant food sub-categories.  
>> Also, the feature access can be set up differently.  Here's an example of 
>> where I'd use Where To? in preference to AroundMe (and where Navigon's POIs 
>> falls short).  For my location, Navigon doesn't bring up any bus stops among 
>> the public transport POIs, although these are easily found in the Maps app.  
>> In AroundMe, I have to type in "bus stops" into the search field, and I'll 
>> be presented with a list of matches ordered roughly (but not exactly) by 
>> distance.  In Where To?  if I first double tap on "Travel and 
>> Transportation" and then double tap on "Public Transport", and the bus stops 
>> will be exactly ordered by distance.  Moreover, I can double tap the "next 
>> menu" or "previous menu" buttons and be taken to the next or previous menu 
>> in the list, and the page for each stop has a link to the web home page that 
>> shows the next bus scheduled arrival time.  This is not available through 
>> AroundMe.   The point here is merely to show that the Where To? app can 
>> provide information that is different from, or complementary to what you get 
>> from AroundMe.  
>> 
>> Where To? is also an international app, and with both AroundMe and Where To? 
>> it is possible to search for points of interest in different locations.  For 
>> example, after selecting search categories, double tap the "Search" button 
>> in the top right corner of the screen, and then enter either the postal code 
>> or the name of the city into the search field and double tap the "Search" 
>> button at the bottom right of the virtual keyboard.  (If you use a Bluetooth 
>> keyboard, just press the "Enter" key to start the search.)  Your search 
>> results will come up for the postal code or address you entered in the 
>> search field.  (Note that this works for zip codes in the U.S. and postal 
>> codes in the U.K., but not for lengthy French postal codes -- you have to 
>> type in a more complete address.)  To return the search to your present 
>> location, double tap the "Start Tracking" button in the bottom left corner 
>> of the screen.
>> 
>> Since Neil is in the U.K., I'll just mention that a check of a U.K. location 
>> brought up reasonable search results (though I can't verify how up to date 
>> the entries are, if there are recent changes.)  This app has been used by 
>> U.K. members on other lists.  I'll also mention that I've never understood 
>> why the Navigon MobileNavigator app for Great Britain requires a separate 
>> in-app purchase for searches by postal code (or the use of a dedicated third 
>> party app for this), when it's simple to enter the postal code in AroundMe 
>> or Where To? and then send the address location to Navigon.
>> 
>> As Geoff noted, the URL in the App Store for Where To? is:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 06:33, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> 
>>> Where To, the app is also on sale across the world for Valentines Day only, 
>>> Feb 14th, 66% off...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> Talks List Administrator
>>> 
>>> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
>>> 
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>> 
>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>> e-mail: - [email protected]
>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 05:27, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings Scott G,
>>> 
>>> Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app 
>>> named "WhereTo?" by future tap.  It has a list of categories and results 
>>> which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be 
>>> seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in "maps" app 
>>> where it launches the preferred "helper app" and sets  the desired POI as 
>>> the destination
>>> 
>>> I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in 
>>> Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app.
>>> 
>>> The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>>  
>> 
>> 

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