I had no idea about the interacting part, thanks for that.
On 2011-03-03, at 6:34 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Eric, > > If you want something close to your iPhone experience, you can use the > TrackPad Commander gestures to navigate. You'll find this is particularly > efficient in moving through items like tables where you would otherwise have > to press multi-key shortcuts to interact. Here's the equivalent instructions > to the ones that Colin gave for navigating through the VoiceOver Utility menu > to turn on Keyboard Commanders performed with TrackPad Commander gestures. > I'll note that you do not have to check the box for "Allow VoiceOver to be > controlled with AppleScript" under the "General" menu of VoiceOver Utility in > order to have the time spoken if you use the default Keyboard Commanders time > definition, so I'll skip this step in my instructions. However, if you want > to customize your own AppleScripts for the way time is spoken, or for other > commands that you add to the Keyboard Commander, you will need to check this > option. > > I think TrackPad Commander is turned on by default for the MacBook Air. At > least, it was turned on for the MacBook Air that I set up for someone. You > can turn TrackPad Commander on and off either by pressing the VO-keys > (Control and Option) while making a clockwise rotor gesture with two fingers > on the TrackPad or by checking the box to "Enable TrackPad Commander" in the > Commanders menu of VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8). VO+clockwise two finger rotor > gesture on the TrackPad turns TrackPad Commander on, while > VO+counterclockwise two finger rotor gesture on the TrackPad turns TrackPad > Commander off. > > 1. Press VO-F8 to bring up VoiceOver Utility. (I assume that you have your > keyboard options set so that you don't have to press the "Fn" key together > with the F8 key to bring up VoiceOver Utility. If not, go to the "Keyboard" > menu of System Preferences (Control-F2 or VO-M to the Apple menu bar, arrow > down and press "s y" to go to the "System Preferences" options and press > Return, then navigate to the "Keyboard" menu and select with VO-Space.) On > the "Keyboard" tab, make sure that you've checked (with VO-Space) the check > box for "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys" . These > commands are all given as standard VoiceOver sequences, though you can also > use TrackPad commander gestures to navigate and select, as I'll demonstrate > in the following instructions.) > 2. Press "c" to go to "Commanders", then do a series of one finger flicks > right on the trackpad to move to the "Keyboard" tab and double tap to > select. > 3. Flick right once to the "Enable Keyboard Commander" check box, and double > tap to select. > 4. Flick right to read the radio button options for selecting either the > Right or Left Option key to use as the modifier key for Keyboard Commander > shortcuts and double tap to make your selection > 5. Flick right to the table of default Keyboard Commander shortcut > definitions and interact with the table by doing a two finger swipe to the > right on the trackpad. > 6. Flick right to read the table entries. You can change the action > associated with a keyboard key (such as "t" for running the AppleScript > script "TimeofDay") command by double tapping the command menu button, which > brings up a menu of various other commands you could assign to this key. > Flick up and down the categories, and flick right to move into submenus for a > category, where you can also flick up and down for options, or flick left to > go back up to the menu category. Double tap to select a new assignment. The > two finger scrub gesture on the trackpad will get you out of the menu (or you > can press the "escape" key). > 7. Do a two finger swipe left on the trackpad to stop interacting with the > table. > 8. Command-W to the close the window and exit VoiceOver Utility. > > Just as with the iPhone and Bluetooth Keyboard support, you can use a > combination of gestures and keyboard commands for the same actions. For > example, if I have Quick Nav turned on, I can move to the next element by > tapping my right arrow key as well as by flicking. I can "Read All" with > either VO-A or a two finger flick up (or down, if it's read all from the > current position) on the Trackpad. You can interrupt VoiceOver speaking > either by pressing the Control key or with the two finger tap on the > Trackpad, and resume with either the key press (Control) or the gesture (two > finger tap on the Trackpad). > > I don't usually give the instructions this way, since the standard VoiceOver > keyboard shortcuts are universal, and desktop Macs or older laptops (such as > my own 13" MacBook) require the Magic TrackPad and Snow Leopard to use the > TrackPac gestures, while the standard shortcuts work for all versions of > VoiceOver (back to Tiger!). However, since Colin and other have given you > the instructions with keyboard based command options, and since you say you > have a MacBook Air, and have come to the Mac from the iPhone, these options > may feel more familiar to you. > > To find out more about the TrackPad gestures, check the VoiceOver Getting > Started Guide for Snow Leopard, Chapter 11 on "Using VoiceOver Gestures", and > review the list of gestures in Appendix A. The guide can be accessed in web > format from: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ > > It's also linked to the last entry in the VoiceOver Help menu (VO-H twice). > If you want to separately order an embossed Braille edition of the guide from > Lighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, there's a link to the order page > from the VoiceOver downloads page: > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html > > There's a $14.95 charge for the Braille version of this guide, which they > also have for Leopard and Tiger (earlier versions of the operating system), > and there's an iPhone User Guide in Braille (but I think that's only for iOS > 3.0 and not the current version of the system). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 13:19, Eric Brinkman wrote: > >> Oh ok, this is comparable to touching near the top of the screen on >> the iPhone (I had an iPhone with VO before I bought this computer). >> Thanks! I'm surprised I didn't find this in the voiceover >> documentation. Makes me think I'm not getting my money's worth out of >> this machine. >> >> Eric >> >> On 3/3/11, Andre Nuno Soares <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Just to add to what Donna and Colin said, the fastest way to get the date >>> and time without the keyboard commander is to press Control F8 and then left >>> arrow. >>> Control F8 (or VO M, M) jumps you to the status bar, where you have icons >>> for clock, battery, bluetooth, etc. >>> Pressing left arrow once puts you on the clock icon. >>> Note that in fact the clock icon is the last one on the row, and the left >>> arrow wraps around to the last position. This doesn't happen if you have >>> QuickNav on. >>> >>> >>> HTH, >>> André >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Colin M wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Eric! >>>> You can enable keyboard commander and allow vo to be controlled by apple >>>> scripts! >>>> 1, open vo utility vo+f8 >>>> 2, scroll until you get to the vo controlled by apple scripts button and >>>> check it! >>>> 3, go to the table and interact with it and scroll down to commanders and >>>> then stop interacting! >>>> 4, scroll th the keyboard tab and check it then scroll the enable button >>>> and check that! >>>> 5, you will now need to pick which option key you would like to use it >>>> should be set on the right one but you can select the left one if you >>>> prefer! >>>> 6, if you then scroll to the table of items and interact with it you will >>>> see some preset scripts one of which is read time using the command [ in >>>> my case ] right option+t! >>>> you will also have the option to make your own shortcuts and seeing you've >>>> got a mbp there should be trackpad options as well! >>>> anyway I hope thats some help! >>>> Colin >>>> Qapla! >>>> >>>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >>>> >>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 22:30, Eric Brinkman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi listers, >>>>> >>>>> I've had my macbook for a few months now, searched the voiceover help >>>>> and listened to a few of the podcasts on blindcooltech. But I've >>>>> found no info on how I can have VO tell me the time. The only >>>>> time-related voice feature I've found is the ability to announce the >>>>> time on the quarter-hour, half-hour, or hour in the settings. Is >>>>> there a way to have the time announced when I want to hear it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
