you're right almost went nuts not forgetting windows reflexes, and I thought I 
had an open mind when all it was was a empty cavity:).
On 2011-04-02, at 11:31 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Hi Sarah:
> That is the major drawback I see newbys do. They are trying to learn the Mac 
> and VO as if they are Windows, and Jaws. That is where a lot of frustration 
> comes from.
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi.  I know that the Mac isn't windows and that Voice over isn't Jaws.  I
>> will treat them as their own individuals.  Thanks for the advice though.
>> 
>> Sarah
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: introduction
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Just remember, Voiceover isn't Jaws, and the Mac isn't Windows. If you treat
>> them as individuals, you will be fine.
>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Sarah May wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> 
>>> I chuckled loudly when I read the first line of your message.  Yes, I 
>>> did make out really well for my birthday. *grin*  My friend was 
>>> envious and jealous of me because my Mac is newer than his.  Oh well.  
>>> He can get over it and has.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, I will take your advice and download the podcasts from Blind 
>>> Cool tech.  I knew I would have somewhat of a learning curve with the 
>>> Mac.  So I am dealing with the frustrations as best as I can.  I look 
>>> forward to the classes and the over the phone training.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the warm welcome Sarah along with others from the list.
>>> 
>>> Sarah
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarai 
>>> Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:40 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: introduction
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah:
>>> Dang, girl! You so made out for your Birthday! Nice going! First of 
>>> all, go to www.blindcooltech.com. Listen to all podcasts done by Mike 
>>> Arrigo. They will help you out. You will love 1-to1 training. April 
>>> 13th will by my year anaversery with the Mac. You will love it. We've 
>>> all had those frustrations, that's normal. I have a Macbook Pro, 
>>> iPhone, iPod Nano, and Apple TV. I'm quite happy with my Apple 
>>> products. I use an apex, not a Braillesense, so can't help.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Sarah May wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi List!
>>>> 
>>>> My name is Sarah.  I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota and am mostly blind.
>>> For my birthday, a little over a month ago, I received a Macbook.  I 
>>> have always been a PC and Jaws user.  A friend of mine, who visited me 
>>> this past September, had his Macbook with him and he used voice over 
>>> with it.  I thought it was so cool and seemed more user friendly than 
>>> Jaws.  So when my parents gave me the Macbook for my birthday, along 
>>> with a year's worth of training over the phone and at the Apple store 
>>> through Apple cares; I was utterly amazed and taken aback.  My friend, 
>>> who introduced me to the Mac, was in town for my birthday.  My Mom 
>>> said "your Dad and I thought it would be a perfect time to give it to 
>>> you because Mark can help you get acquainted with it while he's here."  
>>> I do love my Macbook and the voice over voices are so much better than 
>>> Jaws voice selections by far!  I am having some frustrations with the 
>>> Mac, but I knew that would be par for the course, because I am 
>>> learning a new type of computer and software.  I alos am unable to 
>>> receive my e-mail through my Macbook yet.  For some reason when I try 
>>> to set up my G mail account, either I do something wrong, or it just 
>>> doesn't want to accept the settings.  Besides that I am navigating 
>>> Safari quite well.  I need to call and set up an appointment, with the 
>>> people at the Apple store near me, to start my year's worth of 
>>> training.  I also received an I-Pod shuffle from my brother along with 
>>> a twenty-five dollar I-tunes gift card from my niece and nephew.  So I 
>>> will be all set with Apple products.  I don't have an I-phone though.  
>>> I looked at one when I needed to purchase a new phone.  It wouldn't 
>>> work for me.  I have very short, wide, and stubby fingers.  When I 
>>> tried to use the touch screen pad the commands wouldn't work for me.  So
>> I'm sticking with Verizon.  I have their Haven phone which I love.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm hoping that all you experienced Mac users with voice over will be 
>>>> able
>>> to answer all the questions that is newbie will have for you when I 
>>> get stuck in a jam. *smile*  I know that I'll love switching over to 
>>> the Mac even though I'll get frustrated from time-to-time.  Also I'm 
>>> wondering if any of you are Braille Sense product users?  And if so 
>>> are you able to use your Braille Sense product with the Mac?  I have a 
>>> Braille Sense Plus.  I'm just curious.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I thought I'd introduce myself by saying hello and look forward 
>>>> in
>>> learning a lot from this list.
>>>> 
>>>> Sarah
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>>> 
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