Hi Chris! Well hopefully 2 in 1 for you! Here is the link for Chicks dig mac's and I'll put it on its own line! When on the link just open vo+shift+m and you'll have options the first should be open link!
chicksdigmacs.net And I think Rose said that she has the old Skype for people to get! Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 9 Apr 2011, at 02:14, Chris Gilland wrote: > Ester, do you know where I may could find a dmg lying around anywhere of the > old Skype version 2 that was so much better? If you can point me to it, I'd > really rather install it. I mean, someone on list did help me earlier this > evening on Skype with the layout, and now, it does make a fair amount more > sense, but still... I'd really feel more comfortable using the old version > I'm used to, if you know where to get it. Someone said it's still on the > Skype web site, but is ever so slightly berried... not much though. > > If you can find it, would you kindly send me a link? > > Thanks. > > Oh, speaking of which, on another note entirely nonskype related: once I am > in the body of an e-mail I'm reading, if it has a link in it like you'd send > me for the skype dmg, if you find it, how then do I navigate over to the link > and click it? > > Chris. > On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Rose, >> >> I think there's a reason why we've been seeing a lot of posts about the way >> Skype 5 works recently, including the thread Mike Busboom started about >> accessing the camera. A lot of people really don't like the new version. >> Here's a link to the recent article at TidBITS: >> "Skype 5 for Mac: a Huge Step Backwards" by Lukas Mathis (TidBITS April 2, >> 2011): >> http://tidbits.com/article/12088?print_version=1 >> >> I've linked to the print only version of the page (which includes links to >> images of the screen menus, but is text only). This is a really long >> article, and I've excerpted some of the main premises (but not all the >> details). The major premise is that Skype 5 is not only less flexible in >> its organization, layout, and operations for casual users, but it also >> offers less to advanced users, and now requires them to get all the >> information from a single window. >> >> HTH. Excerpt begins below my signature. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> <begin quote> >> A while back, when Skype’s group video chat feature was still free, a friend >> of mine sent me a Skype message asking whether it was possible to do video >> chat with more than one person in Skype. “Sure,” I replied, “you can do >> that, but you need to install the new Skype 5 beta.” I sent her the link. A >> few minutes later, she went offline, and came back shortly thereafter, >> apparently having updated to Skype 5. The first message she sent was: >> >> What the hell happened to Skype? Is this some kind of joke? >> >> Apparently, it is not. >> >> At work, we use Skype to communicate. A lot of the people here use Windows >> computers. More than once, a Windows user has walked by my Mac, seen my >> version of Skype, and said something to the effect of “Wow, this looks so >> much better than the horrible mess we have on Windows!” It seems Skype has >> noticed that there is a discrepancy in quality between the two versions, and >> has decided to make the two versions more similar. Unfortunately, instead of >> making the Windows version of Skype better, they’ve decided to fix the >> discrepancy by making the Mac version of Skype more like the Windows version. >> <snip> >> …I really don’t like Skype 5. [Editor’s note: And neither do we at TidBITS, >> which is why we’re republishing Lukas’s article. We were planning to write >> something very much along these lines, but he did such a good job that we >> didn’t see any reason to pile on independently. -Adam] >> >> The previous version of Skype was a very good piece of user interface >> design. In its initial state, it was extremely basic. This is what Skype >> used to look like: >> >> [image link] [1] >> >> It had a simple window showing a search field, a counter for unread >> notifications, and a list of your friends, with the ones who were currently >> online at the top. It was easy to understand, didn’t take much space so I >> could always keep it visible, and it showed me all the information I needed >> to know. Who’s online? Did I miss something? Is it okay to contact a friend, >> or does he not want to be disturbed? >> >> With an active chat, Skype used to look like this: >> >> [image link] [2] >> >> Again, simple and easy to understand, but still giving me everything I might >> need. I could add more people to the conversation, go back to earlier >> messages, or call people. >> >> But the previous version of Skype wasn’t just simple; it was also flexible >> enough for advanced users. >> <snip> >> Let’s fast-forward to Skype 5. This is what it looks like: >> >> [image link] [4] >> >> The sidebar on the left has a Contacts item and then a list of your chats. >> Clicking Contacts shows all your contacts in the main pane; clicking a past >> chat shows information about the chat (start and end time, and any text >> messages that went back and forth). Clicking a live chat shows the >> participants and any text or video associated with the chat. >> >> Immediately, there are problems with this. And not just problems for >> advanced users, but also problems for casual users. >> >> It’s Too Complicated for Casual Users -- The window no longer looks simple. >> Instead, it’s overwhelming. On the plus side, it’s now easier to add a new >> contact (not something you do that often), and I can decide whether to call >> somebody or start a chat by hovering over a contact. >> >> On the minus side… everything else. Since every Skype feature is crammed >> into a single window, that window feels overloaded. No longer do I see a >> simple list of contacts. Instead, I have a complex multi-paned window whose >> main pane shows entirely different things, depending on the application’s >> mode. >> >> No longer can I easily see who’s online. Instead, I probably see only the >> people I’ve talked to most recently, regardless of whether they’re online. >> More than once, I’ve waited for a friend to show up in the sidebar, >> expecting it to work like the old buddy list. It doesn’t. Unless you switch >> to the Contacts screen, which then causes Skype to show two lists of >> contacts next to each other (the past chat contacts in the sidebar and the >> Address Book contacts in the main pane), you don’t actually see who’s >> online. And those two lists behave entirely differently. >> >> There’s too much extraneous stuff in the main window. For example, right >> next to the important Add Contact button, there’s a button that allows you >> to see the pictures of the people in your address book in a Cover Flow view. >> What is this good for? Why would anyone ever want to do that? Making this >> view even more useless are both the inscrutable avatar pictures many people >> use and the generic icons Skype inserts for those who lack pictures. >> <snip> >> It’s Not Flexible Enough for Advanced Users -- Skype 5 isn’t just harder to >> use for casual users, it’s also less flexible for advanced users. Earlier >> versions of Skype were simple to understand and easy to use, but they >> allowed users to grow. As users learned more, they were able to make use of >> Skype’s advanced features. Skype 5, on the other hand, is a shallow app that >> doesn’t give its users room to grow. >> >> With Skype 5, I can’t see two chats at the same time. At first, I thought >> that I must be missing something. Surely, chatting with two people at the >> same time is a common use case. I can’t be the only person who does that, >> can I? Skype seems to think I am. There’s no way to see two or more chats >> next to each other. >> >> The default window is too large, and it can’t be made small without >> destroying functionality. I like to keep Skype running all the time. The >> older version’s window was small enough that I could fit it at the edge of >> the screen; if I need to know if somebody is online, I can see that at a >> glance. Skype 5’s window is way too big. Even if I don’t hide the app >> intentionally, it eventually gets covered by other windows. >> >> I can’t see who’s online when a chat is active, unless I open a second >> window with a list of users. Now I’m duplicating functionality across two >> windows; I end up with three different user lists in two different windows >> that all behave in slightly different ways. I guess it’s good to have the >> option, but why replace something that works perfectly well with something >> that doesn’t work particularly well, and then, to cover the fact that the >> new version of your feature doesn’t work well, also re-introduce the earlier >> version? >> <snip> >> <end quote> >> >> >> On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:24, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> Wow, there seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding Skype conferences in >>> Skype 5. Recently I've found it necessary to be involved in a lot of them, >>> and it gave me a chance to really play around with Skype 5 conferencing. So >>> I thought I'd chime in here. To make a new conversation, hit command-n, or >>> go to file, new conversation. You will have a blank conversation. Now, hit >>> command-shift-a or the add people button in the conversation window. You >>> will see an edit field and a table here. Interact with the table to see >>> your entire contact list, online contacts first. Hit enter or space on each >>> person you wish to add to a conference. Alternatively, in the edit field, >>> type the name of a person you wish to add. This can be a display name or a >>> Skype name. So if you wanted to add me to a conference, you'd type Rose. >>> The results of your search will show up here. So if you have Rose Kline and >>> Rose Morales, you would then pick Rose Morales if you were going to invite >>> me to your conference and not Rose Kline. Perform the same process for each >>> contact you wish to add. Once a contact has been successfully added using >>> the spacebar or enter key, their name will show up in the edit field as an >>> embedded image. So if you're not sure which names you've selected, just >>> read that edit field back to yourself. Anything that identifies itself as >>> an image is a name you've added. Any text which is not an image will be >>> something you're searching for in your contact list. Or at least Skype will >>> assume so. When you finish selecting contacts and hit the done button, >>> Skype will call each of the contacts you've added to a conversation. If you >>> simply wish to add a person to a conversation without calling them, type >>> /add and then a Skype username into the chat field of your conversation. >>> You can separate multiple names with commas. If you wish to hang up on an >>> individual person in the conference and you are the conference host, find >>> the name of that person in the conversation. It may be before the scroll >>> area or inside it. Vo-shift-m on their name and hit hang up. Additionally, >>> please bear in mind that if the conference host hangs up, everyone will get >>> hung up. A new person can host, but do not try to call each person >>> individually. You must call the entire conference or no one at all. Only >>> the master of a conference can kick people from a conference if everyone's >>> rank remains unmodified. That is to say, if no one receives a promotion by >>> the conference master. Helpers can also kick people but only if promoted to >>> said level by a master. The master is the person who added people to a >>> conversation, from what I gather. This can be different than the creator. >>> Like, say I open up a message to Jeff. I'm the conference creator. Jeff >>> adds Cara to the chat. Jeff is the master, because he added Cara. Only the >>> master can promote people to the master rank level. For more information >>> about the skype ranking system in conferences, type /help in any Skype chat >>> window. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Brianna Snyder wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Just like the subject says, I'd like to know if you can make a conference >>>> in Skype 5. I have not been able to figure out how to add someone to an >>>> existing call. 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