Hi Kawal and others, The following old post may offer a modicum of clarification. The short answer to your question is that message text is automatically read for me regardless whether the focused mailBox is in threaded view either when I press enter or tab into the preview pane. I believe that using the arrow keys to expand threads is much cleaner than pressing enter and opening windows for all the children, but that's a matter of preference.
On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:13 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Annie, > > My suggestion varies greatly from the advice you've been given so far, but > IMHO is much more deficient; Here in the US in the 1960s there was an > expression: "different strokes for different folks", so I'll offer this for > your consideration. > > First, In the VO utility go into the navigation tab and uncheck the box > labeled: "Automatically interact when using tab key". Now as you traverse > messages you can press right arrow to expand threads. If like me you're > tired of hearing the word "thread" you can alter the verbosity setting for > disclosure triangles such that the name is not announced. That way you'll > know its a thread when VO identifies it as a triangle -- no need to hear the > superfluous word "thread" every time. As you arrow up and down, > VO usually announces the author, subject, etc. If it does not the "move > right/left" commands (vo-arrow keys) reads the fields individually, and you > can quickly peruse one specific field such as the sender via vo-up/down arrow > commands. > > To read a message press tab . Since you are no longer automatically > interacting with the table of messages or preview pane the tab moves focus > to the preview pane and voiceOver usually automatically announces the > contents there of regardless whether headings are enabled in mail > preferences. If you want to skim read the text or click on any links you may > need to interact with the preview pane, but for most things I read and press > backspace to delete. Pressing either backspace or shift-tab returns focus to > the message list. > > BTW when a thread is not expanded, backspace will kill it off. You may want > to bare in mind, however that many who are uninformed as I was recently will > press reply and delete the subject and text with the intent of starting a > totally different conversation. What threads messages together though is > actually not the subject, but instead is determined by a line that is > inserted into message headers. I plan to post a completely unrelated > question to the list shortly regarding spell checking. If I did this by > using command-r and deleting all the subject and text rather than pressing > command-n, my question would have been appended to this thread, so that is > the danger when you assume a thread is inapplicable. A recent example is > Neil Barnfather's thread regarding keyboard navigation. This generated > several other topics such as documentation and Apple in store training, but > if I only saw a thread with three hundred or so messages about keyboard > navigation and didn't believe the topic was of interest I would have missed > several buried threads that were not related because someone apparently > attempted to launch a new thread by using either control+r in Outlook or > command-r in AppleMail. > > HTH. > Geoff On May 6, 2011, at 2:51 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Geoff. > > In your message you say that you've unchecked a box in the Voice Over > Utilities category, so wish to know (as I read my messages in threaded view > which are displayed as separate windows), if I were to uncheck the box and > pressed enter on any message, would the Voice Over read my messages > automatically as that doesn't work if my mail is not in threaded view. > > Kawal. , -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
