and the installer's sort of berried, be aware. It's gonna be in your optional installs folder. If you'd like I'll grab my dvd and get you guys the exact path on the disc.

Chris.

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If you insert the disk that has Snow Leopard on it, either the purchased one or the DVD that came with your computer, you will find an installer for xCode 3 on it. This should be sufficient. XCode 4 is needed for development of Lion and/or IOS 5 applications, to the best of my knowledge.

Jon

On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Windels wrote:

Hello Zachary and others,

I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but when I run the installer, I receive a message like: xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or commandline support (10.4) deselected.

I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store for 4 euro.

Is this the way I should solve that problem?

Thanx alot for your answer,

best regards,
William Windels
Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende geschreven:

Thanks.

I will give that a try.

Chris.

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Hi Chris,
Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg file you download and run like any other Mac installer. That automatically makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run "port install pianobar".
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So, then, how would I install pianobar

Chris.

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Hi Chris,
Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily. There are ways to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think. Consider sites like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic interface? For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux based Pandora player called pianobar. It works absolutely flawlessly! Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or aptitude install packagename?

I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.

Thanks.

Chris.
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