Ray,
You do have a point there. I was meaning to comment upon the Lion issue and I
let those messages get away from me.
And yes, the Mac cursor does react differently. Sometimes I am not sure if I am
at the end of the line or two cells from it.
Isaac
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
What, pray tell, has that to do with the curser position and movement? It
must be remembered, (for the benefit of y'all who are or may perhaps still be
new to the Mac world), that the Mac curser itself moves in a different way to
the windows curser. See my earlier message for an analysis.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote:
Hello Ray and all,
There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give
Lion a chance to work out the bugs....
Isaac
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right
of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser.
You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the
Mac curser.
Sincerely,
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On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote:
Hi Ray and all,
Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement
act just like it does in Windows?
Johnny
On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in
windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac,
the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if
you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you
will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to
the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is
rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example,
you type the word "apple" as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will
be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the
p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a
characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the
Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the "apple"
example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p?
IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of
the line; and, assuming you've typed the word "apple" at the beginning of this
line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use
VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the
curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right
and you hear, "space", followed by "a", that tells you that the curser is now
just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or
type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that
extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p
spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did.
When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were
then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you
caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric
type
writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's
position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right
of the second p in the word apple.
HTH.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
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On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must
ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows
for
years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and
suddenly
get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals
with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was
using a windows computer with or without a screenreader,
I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new
way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is
taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th--
http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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