Thank you, Esther. :) Much appreciated. Teresa On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Teresa, Bryan, and Others, > > It is possible to use Find My iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) from the > MobileMe web page on your Mac, although it's easier to use the "Find My > iPhone" feature on another iOS device that has the free "Find My iPhone" app > loaded. Since your information is associated with your login and password, > you can use that app from any iOS device which has this free app loaded (not > just one that you own) to find your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. > > Bryan's correct that there's some interaction with the way javascript works > on the MobileMe site to choose your MobileMe service that seems to generate > the continuous VoiceOver busy messages. I think this is a result of the way > MobileMe was re-written in Ajax, which uses javascript to dynamically update > the screen. (This is my reconstruction after the fact -- practically > speaking, I just found that bypassing the selection of which MobileMe service > I wanted by adding a slash after the MobileMe URL and typing the service name > let me get onto the site without the VoiceOver busy messages.) John Panarese > saved my posting of this MobileMe work-around on his "Tips and Tricks for the > Mac and OS X" page at the MacForTheBlind site: > http://macfortheblind.com/?page_id=195 > This (logging in with the "/find" appended) is actually what the help > information for using "Find My iPhone" directs you to do: > "Go to me.com/find and sign in using your Apple ID email address and > password." > > Anyway, I'll outline how I access the "Find My iPhone" feature at MobileMe. > I'm a MobileMe subscriber, but I assume it works the same way for folks who > just register for "Find My iPhone". > > 1. Under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), I set my "Web" options to Navigate > webpages by DOM order, and under the options for "When loading a new webpage" > I have the box for "Move the VoiceOver cursor to it" checked. > 2. Use the URL: > http://www.me.com/find > (Press Command-L to highlight the address bar, then type in "me.com/find" and > press "Return" to go to the MobileMe site where you'll be positioned at the > login text box) > 3. In the login text box type in your username, press tab to move to the > password text box, then press "Return" to log into the page for "Find My > iPhone" > 4. On the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page, with QuickNav on (turned on or off > by pressing the left and right arrow keys simultaneously), navigate (by > pressing the right arrow key) to "Devices", then continue to navigate down > the list to the iOS device you want to locate. There's an entry for the > registered device (e.g., "Teresa's iPhone", "Esther's iPad", etc., followed > by a location status (e.g., "Locating", "Located 1 minute ago", "No location > available"). > 5. Select the device you want to find from the "Devices" list by pressing the > Up and Down arrow keys simultaneously (with QuickNav on) or with VO-Space. > You can do this from either the device line or the location status line. The > web page will update to display a map to the right of the "Devices" list with > the location of your selected device shown. This is similar to the way your > location is shown in the default "Maps" app on iOS devices. > 6. Navigate to your selected device in the map view with item chooser menu > (VO-i). This is the second entry in the list (e.g., if you typed "i p h" and > got a list of two items, the first "Teresa's iPhone" is the entry in the > "Devices" list; the second entry is device you found. Arrow down and select > it by either pressing "Return" or VO-Space.) > 7. Activate the selected device either by pressing the up and down arrow keys > simultaneously (If QuickNav is on), or with VO-Space. > 8. Navigate through the options with your Right arrow key. You'll hear the > device named (e.g. "iPhone", "iPod Touch", "iPad"), location status (e.g. > "Located 2 minutes ago"), followed by buttons for "Display Message or Play > Sound…", "Lock…", and "Wipe…". > 9. Activate the button you want by pressing the up and down arrow keys > simultaneously or with VO-Space. Choosing the button to "Display Message or > Play Sound…" brings up a dialog window with the box to "Play a sound for 2 > minutes" checked. Pressing "Return" immediately activates this default > selection, and will cause the selected device to play sonar pings as though > from submarine sonar scans for two minutes, or until you find and deactivate > the message on the screen (assuming your device has battery power left and is > connected to the internet). Pressing "Escape" cancels the dialog window. > (You can also navigate to the "Cancel" and "Send" buttons and press them with > VO-Space or the Up+Down Arrow key combination). You can also type in a > message to be sent and displayed on the screen of your device (e.g. "Please > call this phone number…"). > > Comments: I find this all very accessible. The screen layout is fairly > simple, and I was actually able to log in and navigate the MobileMe Find My > iPhone screen in the Atomic Browser app on my iPad to confirm this layout. > (For some reason Mobile Safari will not let you log into MobileMe pages from > iOS devices.) I usually allow sufficient time for the device to be located > before I select if for finding, since that's typically only 10 or 20 seconds. > I also give the page a few seconds to load the map for the located device > after I've selected it before trying to send the command to play a sound. (I > haven't tried to use either the "Lock" or "Wipe" functions.) You can > navigate to the located device with your right arrow key with QuickNav on, > too. It's just that you'll hear VoiceOver announce a group of odd sounding > blocks that are map image sections between the end of the "Devices" list and > your selected device if you do that, but the page is perfectly explorable > with VoiceOver navigation. Using item chooser menu, which can also be used to > find "Devices" in step 4, is just slightly simpler and faster. There's also > a button to refresh the page if you want to update your devices "Find" > action. (I guess this could be useful if the iPhone was left in a moving > car.) The map display is purely visual, with no coordinate information, but > you could do a screen capture, either of the entire screen (Command+Shift+3) > or just of the browser window, and attach it to an email to a sighted friend, > asking them to tell you the location. > > HTH. I'd be curious if anyone who also uses a Window screen reader could give > instructions on how to navigate the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page based on > this information. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 18:25, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Hi again, Bryan and all, >> >> Just wanted to say that I did get the service set up on my IPod side. The >> tricky part will be finding it from the Mac. >> >> Thanks, >> Teresa >> On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi Teresa, >>> >>> I have some bad news and some good news. First the bad. Believe it or not, >>> Me.com is pretty inaccessible using VO or any screen reader. Esther has >>> posted some workarounds that can help in some situations. One of Esther's >>> tips is that it can be less painful to login if you include the specific >>> section of the me.com site in the address bar as I've included in the >>> following URL: >>> >>> www.me.com/findmyiphone >>> >>> When you get to that site, chances are you will still hear lots of the >>> dreaded "Safari busy, Safari ready" chatter, but be patient and you should >>> eventually be able to enter your id and password. I've noticed that it can >>> take some VO left and right to hit the actual edit fields, and the button >>> labeled "sign in" sometimes requires routing the mouse cursor to the VO >>> cursor and then performing the VO-Shift-Spacebar mouse click. I just tested >>> this and it got me to the "find my iphone" section of the me.com site but I >>> was not able to find anything useful on that page using VO. >>> >>> Now for the good news. Aside from the me.com mess, I think you can perform >>> the actual setup of the "find my ipod" service from your ipod itself. If >>> you haven't already done so, take a look at the instructions at the >>> following Apple site for setting this up on an ipod touch: >>> http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/find-my-ipodtouch-setup/ >>> >>> More good news is that there is an App called "Find my iPhone" that is VO >>> accessible and runs on an i-device. It will find any i-devices that have >>> been setup on the "find my i-whatever" service under the ID you use to >>> login after launching the app. It allows a sighted person to view a map >>> displaying the approximate location of the i-device in question, and it has >>> fully accessible functions allowing you to send a text message with or >>> without sound, change the device's password, or wipe the device. You can >>> even use the app to test the device you are running it on. Here's a link to >>> the app in the US App Store: >>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8 >>> >>> Hopefully Apple will be replacing me.com with an upgraded and accessible >>> website as part of the iCloud initiative. I had emailed >>> [email protected] a few months ago and they flat out told me the >>> me.com site is not accessible with VO or any screen reader, but they >>> offered no insight into when this situation might be improved. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> I'm actually *hoping I have the wrong URL for the Mobile Me site. I'm >>>> trying to activate the "find my IPod" service, and when I go to www.me.com >>>> VO mostly says "busy" and will occasionally read one element on the page. >>>> Is it just me? >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
