Hi Esther, Thanks very much for this. I've never needed so much detail in the 15 years or so that I've been using a pc, but I could always get it with a keystroke if I wanted it. Now that I have this set up according to your instructions, it will do, but it is really really clunky.
Ah well some things we must do. Thanks again. Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-20, at 5:37 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Control-Option-Command-B moves me to the next bold text and adding a Shift to > that moves me to the previous bold text. The announcement of text attributes > (VO-T) tells me about the font colors. The easy way for me to check that > this is working is to select the web page and send the text to a TextEdit > window by using the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" Service Menu > option, which I enabled and bound to a keyboard shortcut, so all I have to do > is select all in the web page with Command-A, then execute my shortcut to > send this to TextEdit. Looking through things in TextEdit makes it very easy > to tell just what font is being used (size and whether it is bold), because I > can simply select a sample of text and bring up the font table with > Command-T. If I use VO-Command-B to find next instance of bold text (as Jon > suggested) or VO-Shift-Command-B to find previous instance of bold text, I'll > move through the file to each instance of bold text. If there's no further > bold text, issuing VO-Command-B won't move me anywhere, while > VO-Shift-Command-B moves me to the previous instance of bold text. > > I'm not saying this works on the web page you are looking at, but it did on > the ones that I tried. Plus, only having to execute two shortcuts (Command-A > to select all, and the shortcut I chose to assign the service menu shortcut) > to get the selection to a TextEdit file (in rich text format) is a lot faster > than mucking around in the HTML navigation, where you might have extraneous > image elements, etc. > > If you want to set up the Services menu option for "New TextEdit Window > Containing Selection", I wrote this up in a list post back in March: > "Two ways to deal with the problem web site [was Re: Web site problems]": > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg42795.html > > This was one of two solutions offered to reading a really awful web site (you > can read the previous comments by Anne, and the initial post by the person > who needed a solution). Sending things to TextEdit via the Services menu > strips them of a lot of bad HTML coding that affects accessibility, and is > also much cleaner and faster than trying to copy and paste if you're really > just interested in the text content. There are a few corrections to the > instructions -- I think I incorrectly referred to the "Keyboard Shortcuts > Table" as "Table of Services" because I was using old notes, and was nearly > on my way out the door. Also, a quick way to get to the Services Preferences > menu with all the correct items selected is to just select something in any > application, and then navigate to the "Services" menu for that application > (could be Mail, Safari, TextEdit, or anything -- just make sure to select > some text or a page first, since the service menu options don't show up if > there's nothing selected for them to operate on.) At the bottom of the > "Services" submenu options, there will be a "Services Preferences…" option. > Selecting that bypasses about the first 4 steps of the old instructions, > since you don't have to start by bringing up "System Preferences", finding > the "Keyboard" menu, selecting the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab, and selecting > "Services" in the "Keyboard Shortcuts Categories". All those will > automatically be set, and you can just search for "New TextEdit Window > Containing Selection" to check the box to enable it under the Services menu. > > I've never understood why this Services menu option has received so little > attention on this list, since I find it really useful. I use TextEdit a lot > for handling math symbols or non-latin text. But I also used to use this > method to read problematic web pages, including back in the time some years > ago when there was a Safari bug that sometimes didn't expose the page > elements to VoiceOver unless you refreshed the page. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:35, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Thanks for the suggestions, but it looks like VO Simply isn't recognizing >> the fact that some of the items on this page are bold while others are not. >> Control option command C skips right over the text completely bold and all. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >> 1-888-255-5194 >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2011-06-20, at 4:26 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> >>> Perhaps vo-shift-command-b to search in reverse? >>> The other possibility is that vo-command-c might help you out. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:21 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, I'm stuck. I've got to look at some information on the web where >>>> certain elements are marked in bold. So, I tooled around in the hotkeys >>>> list and found that control option T reads the text atributes of the >>>> current item, but when I press it, nothing happens. >>>> Then I went to the find menu and discovered that control option command B >>>> finds the bold elements on the webpage. So I tried that, and nothing >>>> happened. >>>> >>>> Any ideas on how I can get this info? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> User support consultant, >>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >>>> 1-888-255-5194 >>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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