Hi Carolyn, thanks for taking the time to play around with this. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's having trouble. :) I'll keep at it too, let's both keep each other posted. Cheers, Donna
On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:51 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Donna: > Well, I had been using the trackpad with some success, particularly for > continuous read text. I have had success previously working with mail in the > past. But, I just tried to reply to your post using the trackpad to get in > place to type, and got all of nowhere. I can interact with scroll area to > read from the top of a message, but trying to double-tap on "reply to" gets > me nowhere. Also, I typically interact with my messages list to move down > subject lines, and enter on anything I want to read But, on the trackpad, I > had to stop interacting with messages just to select yours to try to work > with. Either some things are broken/changed, or I need a quick refresher > course. I'm guessing it's the latter. But, now you've got me curious. I'll > let you know what I find. > > Carolyn > On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Jim, Colin, and all, >> >> Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal >> results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use >> this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox >> column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to a >> different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and navigate >> with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken when I use >> the arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not interacting. >> If anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd appreciate any >> pointers. I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released in 2009, so I'm >> really surprised by this. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: >> >>> According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the >>> the control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the >>> messages table in mail to the text. >>> >>> I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some >>> reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Esther, >>>> >>>> thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are >>>> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the >>>> help section very useful. >>>> >>>> I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using >>>> the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that >>>> this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, because >>>> doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I know I wasn't >>>> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the >>>> messages table read (another major oversight imho) >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> >>>>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 >>>>> on Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use >>>>> VO-H to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting >>>>> Started Guide" and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press >>>>> "g e s" to get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A >>>>> listing the Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard >>>>> gestures, go directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on >>>>> "VoiceOver standard gestures". (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press >>>>> "s t".) A lot of these will be familiar to you from using the iPhone, >>>>> but there are some other ones like going to the dock or menu bar (two >>>>> finger double tap near bottom or top of trackpad), or opening the >>>>> application or window chooser menus (two finger double tap along left or >>>>> right sides of the trackpad), and changing how VoiceOver reads text >>>>> (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the Command key while your >>>>> finger touches the trackpad, that are different. >>>>> >>>>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table >>>>> announced at once with TrackPad commander. >>>>> >>>>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail >>>>> >>>>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions. Maybe >>>>> somebody else can give you better answers. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad >>>>>> commander, and have a couple of questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Is there any way to view a list of commands? when I go into the >>>>>> assign Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands >>>>>> are displayed. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. How do I navigate in Mail? Single-finger flicking takes me out of >>>>>> the messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads >>>>>> the column that I'm on. I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I >>>>>> do when not using the trackpad commander. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. How do I open a message in mail? I would have thought you would do >>>>>> this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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