William,

Holding down the letter C at startup will always boot from a CD, and the
list that appears when you hold down the option key always starts with your
actual internal hard drive, just to give you a starting point to memorize so
you can boot from things with VO support.



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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:06 AM
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Subject: Re: setting boot options before restart?

He daniel, erik and others,

Daniel, perhaps you are right, sounds logic but, why if you need to choice
an option at startup with the arrow keys (without vo-support)?
e.g if you want to install linux/windows on a external partition or you want
to boot a linux live-cd?
I don't know if this kind of boot options have also letters that you can
press after startup and if they don't have, working with the arrow-keys
without vo is very uncomfortable.

Erik, about your option, I am not shore if they will think about this
because , this is not necessary for sighted users I think.
Only , it makes in perhaps more comfortable since they haven't to stay next
the mac and wait until it is rebooted to press the letter but this seems not
a big advantage I think.
Another thing is that that kind of options are already available to make it
more comfortable to install a mac over a network.
This is perhaps a option in macosx server.

Thanx for your comments,
best regards,
William Windels
Op 23-jul.-2011, om 14:45 heeft erik burggraaf het volgende geschreven:

> Or Why not just make them options in the standard shutdown dialog?  Maybe
they could put in an advanced button that opens up a dialog with the options
so that some one doesn't press one by accident and reck their computer.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2011-07-23, at 8:27 AM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Since Apple has introduced install apps and os-updates from the internet,
we don't need a dvd.
>> This is good but , gives sometimes problems about accessibility.
>> I mean: we can't decide before restart, with vo-support, what to do after
reboot.
>> We also can't hear when it's time to press the letter since there is no
dvd turning around.
>> 
>> If I understand well, in some situations , we have to chose after booting
up   what we want to do: booting the normal system, booting the install
packages and perhaps more options.
>> Of course , voiceover can't work on that moment.
>> So, it should be nice that we can decide what to do before rebooting.
>> 
>> A possible way of working:
>> In stead off choosing reboot, we chose a new vo-command e.g.
command+option+escape and there we have the choices what to do after reboot.
>> 
>> What do you think about this?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> William Windels
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