Totally agree about the item chooser.
It's almost a dealbreaker for me to go back to SL. I'm being patient,
though I don't know why.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Roy" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
THERE WAS AN ANSWER POSTED EARLIER, YOU HAVE 2 CHOICES.
1. WHEN QUITTING THE APPLICATION HIT OPTION ALONG WITH COMMAND-Q AND IT
WILL GO BACK TO THE DEFAULT STATE.
2. UNDER THE GENERAL TAB OF SYSTEM PREFERENCES, THERE IS A CHECKBOX TO
TOGGLE THE BEHAVIOR OF PREVIOUS WINDOWS OPENING WHEN YOU RESTART AN APP.
MY BIGGEST ISSUE NOW IS WITH THE ITEM CHOOSER WHICH I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE AND
IS COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE UNDER LION.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Shen wrote:
Hello,
Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I prefer
to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now opening all
the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as I can find,
there is no setting to change that. The other little quirk I have is
whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't always put me in the
html content and start interacting with it. I have to press VO-Shift-Down
Arrow to start interacting with it. The second issue is not that bad, but
just a little annoying.
I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page
and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before quitting
Safari.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an
issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if
not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that
doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've
got a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic here,
and it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the pages i
had up last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when first
starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i don't
want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and taking focus
away from the page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting
somewhere, only i can't find it.
/Krister
23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook:
And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or
lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default,
freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and safari
apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to
download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. Frankly,
the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as the web
roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. I am glad I
upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I think we all
just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not caring, just because
they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. They don't talk to
anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you get your power
situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion issue
either. Calm down everyone. :)
Chris Westbrook
On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
Hi guys.
Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since
Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away.
If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It
can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup.
Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is
starting to become not VO related anymore.
Thanks and for those that need too, chill!
On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
Hi Chris:
Do yourself and all of us a favor:
Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a
pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why
in the heck is it, that if I go to either
http://www.freedomscientific.com
Or:
http://www.hj.com
Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff
happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with
me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting
some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get
the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the roter,
then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for windows screen reading
software, then try to find the jaws 12 download link, if you hit
vo+space on that link, Safari says the page cannot be found. Now,
here's the weird part. If I try this from my xp pro sp3 machine with
either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, same network l A
n, same public I P address, same internet connection, etc. same d h c
p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes but the platform, the
download works like a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a
really rough day, and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart
mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from
the site, or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to download
the fish... you may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. This
isn't about one screen reader being better than another. this is
about the item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari
consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in
behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer anything resourcesful
and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I
would normally be, in the mood for it. OK? Please, if you all test
and find the same thing, let me know. I'd be interested if anyone
knows why the things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm
frustrated yes, the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and
I'm willing to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could
argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup into Lion right away.
You're right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, that really
isn't your right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more stressed
with the Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off more though is
Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at
least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in
another more rellavant post. It's making my experience though not
very enjoyable, I tell ya that! though.
Chris.
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