Hello Tim:
On Jul 24, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Dan, > > Before doing a clean install of the entire OS, I would look at the apps that > are causing you problems. > > I'm running iTunes 10.4 on two different machines with well over 6000 items > in the Library and have no issues other than needing to use VO keys or Quick > Nav more than I'm used to. So, I not convinced that the issue is 10.4. On a > rare occasion, iTunes was being sluggish, I simply Quit it, waited a bit then > opened it again and everything was back to normal. I didn't totally figure > out the reason why but it seems to be linked to my impatience. That is, if I > start pressing VO key combinations to quickly almost confusing iTunes or VO, > then it misbehaves. Come to think of it, that is the sort of thing that > caused Safari to act stupid as well, I start doing VO things before the page > is fully built or doing too many combinations in succession as I rush through > things. > > Tim, yes, sometimes, this is the case for me as well, however, not so now! I > am moving the down arrow key quite slowly and the busy messages come up about > every 3 or 4 songs, and, as I said, it also is quite sluggish. Moving > through the song list at this pace is just totally unacceptable. > 1. Questions: > > • Are you running iTunes 10.3 or 10.4 now? > • I'm guessing that you lost all playlists upon re-importing your media > or did you do something else to create the new Library? > > I am running 10.3, even after importing all my music back in, it still won't > let me update to 10.4. It does the download and starts the installation, > then, when it is almost finished it give me a generic message about not being > able to install iTunes 10.4, it just says an unexpected error has occurred. > this leads me to believe something is quite corrupted. yes, I did loose all my play lists, but, I can recreate them when time allows, that's not a big deal to me. > 2. When starting up iTunes, hold down the Option key. This will bring up a > dialog asking you to choose an iTunes Library or Create a new one. Create a > new one, import your media and see how the new one behaves. This allows you > to keep all playlists and such in the older one so that you can export then > import them into the new one. the playlists are simply text files, not the > actual media therefore there's no duplication. > > If I attempt holding down the option key along with command-O to open, it > simply does nothing. is there another way to accomplish this? > 3. Update it to 10.4, if you haven't already, as it is the version most > optimized for Lion. > > I can't seem to do that right now, see above. > 4. With Safari, are you using Quick Nav or regular VO navigation, Group or > DOM navigation? > > i use quicknav most of the time, but, I did try the regular cursor as well, > the results were the same. I always use DOM, never messed with group at all. > Some of the sites are just fine, here is 1 of the worst ones: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388836,00.asp Try reading the entire review, the reading mode is weird, but, I don't expect that to work on every site. However, even using VO-A to read is annoying, it keeps stopping. So, I can scroll through with left and right arrow, but, I get busy messages some of the time and have to wait before moving to the next block of text. This is a site I used all the time before and never had this kind of weird stuff. Note: when trying to use item chooser on that site, well VO just restarts itself. the longer I think about this, the more I think I have a somewhat corrupted installation. > 5. Do you have an example of the site so I can try to see if it reacts the > same to me? > See above. thanks for responding. If you think we're getting off topic email me privately, thanks. > Later… > > On 2011-07-24, at 2:32 PM, Dan Roy wrote: > >> I am not sure whether these issues are related to Lion or the upgrades of >> Safari and iTunes. >> >> First, before upgrading to Lion, I wanted to make sure that I had the latest >> updates. So, when I checked, I went ahead and installed both Safari 5.1 and >> iTunes 10.4. >> >> After completing the Lion update, I-Tunes had been rolled back to 10.3. I >> assume this is because of the update for I-Tunes being released after Lion. >> Anyway, because of this, I had a problem with my iTunes library, it was >> created for 10.4 and not compatible with 10.3. The update to 10.4 wouldn't >> work for me. So, I deleted the existing library and recreated it by >> importing all my music and other stuff back in to iTunes. >> >> Since then, I have read about the problems with iTunes 10.4 so have avoided >> the upgrade. >> >> Now, finally, to my problems. >> >> I-tunes is extremely sluggish when moving through my list of songs. >> Periodically it will say busy busy and I will have to wait some seconds >> before continuing to move through the list. This is a complaint I read >> about on this list, but, that was with 10.4, or, at least, I thought it was. >> >> The other problem is that on some sites, I am getting safari busy messages >> all the time while trying to scroll through an article. This is totally >> inconsistent and I can't figure it out. >> >> yes, I have already taken the suggestion of turning off the monitoring of >> live areas, this appears to have made absolutely no difference whatsoever. >> >> I have also tried webkit with the latest nightly build and it has made no >> difference at all. >> >> I am wondering now if, because of the upgrade first and then downgrade to >> iTunes, if something is corrupt. I have, as I said before, already >> completely removed and imported all my music and other stuff in iTunes. >> >> So, I am thinking now that I will have to do an install from scratch. >> However, I am trying to avoid this if possible. >> >> Everything else, as far as I know, is working just fine. >> >> If anyone has any ideas at all, I would definitely appreciate them. >> >> Thanks so much. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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