Hi again,

And if we tried to read the captions with the mouse cursor?

1) in VoiceOver Utilities check the option "read everything under the
mouse"

2) Put the mouse on the caption:
a) with VO+left; VO+right put the VoiceOver on the caption. VO+shift
+down to enter in the caption's element. Then Vo+right until the
middle of caption.
b) call mouse pointer to VoiceOver Cursor with VO+command+F5

3) Now play the video (VO+space on play/pause button) and put the head
of index finger in contact with touchpad (don't scroll it). If you
balance the head of index finger right and left - that produce a very
small movement in the mouse pointer, sufficient to refresh the next
caption. Is not the good solution but is sufficient to access to close
captions with VoiceOver. You could check an example, in portuguese, of
this with the "Debtocracy Documentary" at:
http://universalaccess.blogspot.com/2011/07/voiceover-no-lion-cegos-leem-legendas.html

Seems me if we could control the mouse pointer with cursor-routing
keys of display braille this could be more accurately controlled, and
we could continue to listen the caption or either read it in display
braille - course, we need to be a very faster braille reader!.

Cheers, Jorge Fernandes

On Jul 19, 10:21 pm, Jorge Fernandes <jor...@sidar.org> wrote:
> Seems me you right, Chris.
>
> But maybe the wrong isn't the way that Google implement the caption
> but how Apple implement the hotspots. I'll send to Apple our
> discussion, to see if it is possible to do something or to give us
> more information about how to use the hotspot.
>
> Another option, if VisioVoice (from AssistiveWare) read the srt or txt
> file [1] respecting the timetables (we coded in this files) it will be
> possible to produce one audio file to syncronised with our movie. Is
> not the same, but maybe works...
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
> --
>
> [1] typical file format with captions to syncronized with a movie.
>
> [00:00:09.36]
>
> Bom dia !
>
> [00:00:11.00]
>
> [00:00:11.92]
>
> Antes de iniciar a minha comunicação queria agradecer a vossa presença
>
> [00:00:15.64]
>
> [00:00:16.00]
>
> uma vez que temos o privilégio, enquanto Centro de Recursos de
> Inclusão Digital,
>
> [00:00:21.84]
>
> On Jul 13, 8:24 pm, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Seems like hotspots would do the trick but I couldn't get it to work.
> > Under the hood there is a span with a class of "captions-text" which I
> > assume is where my hotspot is attached when I set one. But when the next
> > caption is inserted, instead of updating the text inside that span the
> > entire span is destroyed and re-created. I'm guessing this breaks the
> > hotspot assignment. This seems to be the case because just after the
> > text changes doing a VO-command-1 (for the #1 hotspot I had assigned)
> > say "Hot spot no longer exists". This is one of those cases where not
> > doing the right thing under the hood has negative conseques for
> > assistive technology. I've seen similar things with web-based chat
> > clients that redrew the entire chat roll rather than append one new
> > item, causing AT to read the entire conversation every time. Not sure
> > how to get that fixed. Probably considered an edge case since most VO
> > users wouldn't want to hear the captions in addition to the audio.
>
> > CB
>
> > On 7/13/11 5:45 AM, Jorge Fernandes wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > Since the launched of Youtube videos in HTML5 that it is possible to
> > > control all the buttons of the video interfaces with VoiceOver. I also
> > > noted that it is possible to read the subtitles, but I need
> > > continuosly press VO+left arrow VO+right arrow to positioning the
> > > cursor under the subtitles. VoiceOver read 1 subtitle and then stop,
> > > either when a new subtitle is already on the screen. I need
> > > continuously to jump to line before and then back to, current line to
> > > make VO read the subtitle.
>
> > > Is it possible we configure the VoiceOver to permanently read the
> > > subtitles in sequence, when they appear on screen? Something like a
> > > monitoring an HotSpot and when something new appear in that position
> > > read it?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jorge Fernandes

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