Can you ever say that again Jeffry.  Could not agree with you more.  After all, 
look at me.  I was of the irronious opinion that Mail would take me forever to 
get used to because of all the complaints; and, what happened, within the same 
night I installed Lion, I'd pretty much worked it out.  I'm talking about the 
new layout not the classic one.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

> Here's my take on this.
> Yall quit your complaining and learn to deal with the changes. 
> No, nothin's perfect but geez! Let's just go on and complain just because 
> something has to be accessed differently than before. Yeah that's the way to 
> solve problems except not.
> So, while yall are at it, just go report everything that's just not "the same 
> as it was before" to Apple except that won't solve nothin.
> Yes, like everything Lion has it's bugs and such but just because acts or 
> looks or does anything differently don't mean it's broken.
> For example I did get confused by the new layout in Apple Mail at first so 
> switched to classic view for a bit. Then what did I do, did I write here and 
> complain about it like a little kid? Nope, I read help and read other 
> documentation to help to better get used to everything; and now, I'm using 
> Mail in the new layout which I don't have a problem with.
> Sorry but I get tired sometimes going through my E-Mail and seeing complaints 
> that this is "broken" or "doesn't work the same way as it did in SL." 
> Everything's gottta change at some peoint whether we like it or not.
> I'm sorry if I get kicked off the list for this, but I for one get tired of 
> seeing complaints and such in my Inbox every day since Lion cae out. Yeah I 
> could just go on and dellete which I usually do, but at some point it just 
> gets annoying. If it looks like I'm trying to start something, i'm not, just 
> stating my opinion.
> Now I don't have a problem woth reporting bugs and such because if they 
> were't what out wouldn't get fixed but complaining has its limits.
> Thanks,
> Jeffrey
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:02 PM, David Tanner wrote:
> 
>> Then go back to the classic view and VO-j will work perfectly for you.  I 
>> sat my email to sort by date of receipt and VO-j works wonderfully.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carlene knight" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: yet another VO feature broken?
>> 
>> 
>> I can't just press VO/j to jump from an open message to the messages table 
>> either.  The conversation method of looking at messages is ok, but again, 
>> more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message.  What a pain not 
>> having that option.   Things should get easier, not harder.  I'm whining, so 
>> I'll shut up, but urrrrrgggg!
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't 
>>>> seem to work under the new layout at least.  There is always the official 
>>>> search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages which have 
>>>> been improved in Lion.  See Mail Help.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Zack.
>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific person, I 
>>>>> could just type the first couple of letters of their name and I would be 
>>>>> taken to a message from that sender.  This no longer works on my machine. 
>>>>>  Can someone confirm?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Donna
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