Cliff and list; Once again, this is an additional note that I've also asked that we keep this sort of thing off this group, K? If anyone has any opinions, critique or suggestions for the mods about our character, or how this list works, then please write us directly and keep it off the list. K?
Thanks so much and again, do have a terrific night! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: This confirms everything I heard about this list before I got on it. And most of them were negative, and not about Karel either. I'm probably just adding to the drama, but decided to add my 2 cent worth. CJ, email me off list again or call me and we can catch up. On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:40 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: > Okay, > > First, that's sadly hysterical. Secondly, why hasn't this guy been sent > packing. As a Christian, I'm sorry for his problems, but reluctant to > subject myself or others to his, very obvious, social disorders. Anyway, @ > the very least, this post puts what I've been seeing, for over a month, in > some sort of prospective. > > CJ > > > On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings y'all, >> >> Since there was a decision in early June to go to what amounts to an >> unmonitored list where the mod team is primarily interested in driving >> traffic to a blog site and "being positive" meaning that no standards are >> enforced, why not have some fun and share a year old (but still amusing) >> saga of Christopher-Mark "I'm! Abs!olu!te!ly! the! Lion! GURU!" Gilland. >> Clearly we're dealing with some pretty major personality disorders and >> immaturity, which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't affecting so many >> others who are trying to follow the list closely for assistance taming the >> Lion. >> >> The reader is here by admonished to be sure to have several boxes of tissues >> on hand for all the tears (most likely of laughter). Also, the following >> text includes language that I would normally never place on a public list, >> even indirectly, but it is needed for perspective, and hey, as one of my >> former managers often said: "you can say anything you want, on your last >> day on the job!!". I've reached the point where I'm ready for Mr. Joyful >> noise to kick me off the list and then maybe Carolyn and others can start an >> alternative option where the narcissism and chat group content is kept to a >> minimum and a modicum of list etiquette is actually enforced by the mods, >> which may not be interpreted as being positive and making a joyful noise by >> some. >> >> Okay, now that the box of clean-ex is within reach and the kitties are out >> of ear shot, here goes!! >> >> The following list exchange autta be good for a few laughs. The initial >> dialog on this support ticket submitted to CodeFactory is also very amusing. >> For one thing Chris turned me into a CF employee, but more importantly my >> feelings were absolutely crushed because he was angry at Scott over things >> that I actually said. >> >> Also amusing that codeFactory was held responsible?! >> Geoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [MSP] Weird behavior with touch pro 2 >> God fucking dammit! he asked for help, and help is what I gave him, unlike >> some of you immature nuts on here refuse to do!Get over it! >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Geoff Waaler" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:13 PM >> Subject: [MSP] A little levity. >> After yesterday I can't resist sharing this post from another list. Perhaps >> a review of John 8-7 is in order? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Gilland" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:20 PM >> Subject: Vulgar language on the list >> Guies, if I hear the f word one more time on this list, quoting someone else >> or not, I'm leaving, case closed. I'm not subjecting myself to that type >> language. You're certain entited to how you wanna talk, however, I'm a >> Christian, and will not stand for it, point blank. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Granados" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [MSP] A little levity. >> Hahahahahaha >> >> That's classic, >> On one list he's a Christian, on the other he's swearing like a sailor. >> >> What would Jesus do? >> >> lol >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 14:41 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: [MSP] Ticket submitted >> Importance: High >> >> When time permits, would someone from CF please look in the ticket system? >> I've submitted a high priority ticket. >> >> The tracking ID is: >> >> M3UY4AWVZS >> >> Thanks. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Granados" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:44 PM >> Subject: Chris's ticket contents was Re: [MSP] Ticket submitted >> For anyone interested, here's the contents of the ticket he submitted. >> Clearly, in Chris's world double standards are acceptable. While it's ok to >> call folks out and claim to be a christian on one list and drop f bombs on >> another, he clearly feels that only he has this right and that anyone else >> who wishes to express themselves or call him on his shit needs to be >> silenced. That's always a clear sign of someone fighting an undefensable >> position, they resort to stifling the opposition. >> >> Enjoy the following read >> >> Abusive e-mail on the msp list >> Ticket status: New [Close ticket] >> Created on: 2010-07-20 20:36:49 >> Last update: 2010-07-20 20:36:49 >> Last replier: Customer >> Category: Mobile Speak Pocket >> Replies: 0 >> Priority: High >> Printer friendly version >> >> >> >> >> Date: 2010-07-20 20:36:49 >> Name: Chris Gilland >> E-mail: [email protected] >> IP: 24.74.132.14 >> Phone number: +1 704-910-1581 >> User ID/License no.: 704-904-0009 >> Company (if you are a dealer): >> Dealer (if you are an end-user): Handy-Tech >> >> Message: >> >> Hi. The following is pasted directly from an e-mail that I just received on >> the msp list. As the guidelines say, submit a ticket if you think someone is >> being abusive. That's exactly what I am thus doing. I think this totally was >> out of line. though I know I caused a lot of havvock on list yesterday, I >> still feel this only adde4d to it. I am requesting if ok with it, that >> caroline, or mukesh, or someone send an admin msg letting people know the >> next person who slanders me, nor anyone else on list is getting either >> palced on moderation or banned. In other words, basically give a public >> warning as I was given privately by Mukesh. Here is the mail that I got. >> Check list archives as it should be there too. >> >> After yesterday I can't resist sharing this post from another list. Perhaps >> a review of John 8-7 is in order? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Gilland" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:20 PM >> Subject: Vulgar language on the list >> Guies, if I hear the f word one more time on this list, quoting someone else >> or not, I'm leaving, case closed. I'm not subjecting myself to that type >> language. You're certain entited to how you wanna talk, however, I'm a >> Christian, and will not stand for it, point blank. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Geoff Waaler" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:52 PM >> Subject: Re: Chris's ticket contents was Re: [MSP] Ticket submitted >> Thanks Scott!! Not caring what Chris thinks or says, It never occurred to >> me to check his ticket and I'd have missed out on several good belly >> laughs!! This warranted a priority one ticket and copies marked high >> priority posted to both email lists? Without quoting more of CG's greatest >> hits or going into detail let's just say that many of these same personality >> disorder things occurred there on a regular basis, hence most on that list >> aren't exactly losing sleep pining away for CG's return. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris Gilland >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: 'Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List' >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:12 PM >> Subject: [MSP] I'm off the list, case closed. >> Ladies and gentlemen, >> >> >> >> To all it may concern: >> >> >> >> It is with displeasure that I must publicly announce that I >> am permanently unsubscribing from not only these two lists, but from pretty >> much all lists I am currently on, with the exception of one and one only >> list, and believe me, it’s neither mss, nor msp. I however do not plan to >> ever again post to the one list I will remain on. >> >> >> >> All that I try to do, counterpoint what any of you all may believe is help >> others. If you’re not willing to believe that, then it’s your own problem, >> not mine, in all do respect. I apologized both on list and off list for my >> behavior the other day. Ask Mukesh Sharma if you don’t believe me. He even >> accepted my apology. I was given a warning off list, which I took, and >> still take! Responsibility for. I stated off list to Mukesh that I felt his >> warning was justified. It’s very obvious, however, that people on this list >> are very immature. I see this all over the place in the blind community. >> It’s sad that so many people can’t learn to let? Things, go. When someone >> says they are profusely sorry, and are sincere, then the mature thing to do >> is forgive, and let it go. Lamentably, that is quite obviously not >> happening on either of these two lists. All I have seen for the past nearly >> 24 hours is constant bashing of myself. Lookat: I understand! That you all >> are angry, and hurt at what I did and said. Furthermore, I understand that >> you all find what I did inappropriate, however, whether it was or wasn’t is >> very much not the point. You all frankly are not making yourselves look any >> more mature when you bash me and level yourself down to the level I was on >> yesterday evening. Frankly, in all do respect, you all should be ashamed of >> yourselves. I said that I was sorry, but I’m not putting up any longer with >> the drama everywhere. It seems that every time I subscribe to a list, some >> selfish brat has to ruin things for everyone. Half the assumptions you all >> make about me really are not true, believe it or not. Just ask the people >> who do! Respect me, and who really are what true friends should be. People >> who bash me on and off list, are not my friends. People who publicly >> publish things on a list which I didn’t intend to go to the list, and who >> publicly state that my support tickets are uncared about… that’s horrible! >> Customer service, and I hope cf realizes that because of this, I never again >> plan to buy any of your products. You just lost a customer! Point blank. >> >> >> >> Furthermore I have been keeping every single mail dating back to the >> beginning of this crap. Rest assured I plan to show the entire thread to >> all my friends. So, there is a very good chance, though no guarantees, that >> cf? You might be losing more business than just myself. Believe me, if I >> have any more trouble with any! Of you, on or! Off list, legal action for >> harassment will be taken. >> >> >> >> If you don’t believe me that I have resources to do so, maybe you should >> check this out: >> >> >> >> http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/chrisgilland >> >> >> >> I’m tired of helping anyone. Every time I do, rather than people being >> greatful, they bash me. I am washing my hands of the whole blind community, >> and let me make a suggestion: I don’t wanna see any? E-mails good, or bad, >> stating go away, nor any stating please don’t leave, people are just being >> mean, etc. >> >> >> >> I do not care what at this point is said, nor done, good or bad, bad or >> good. I ab, suh, lootly? Ree? Fuze! To participate any longer in any >> helping matters. You all blew it! As if you all really care, to know. >> >> >> >> Allow me to conclude by saying those of you who have helped me in my ms >> journey, as well as with other matters both on and off list, thank you ever >> so much for all you do. I plan to remain friends privately with some of >> you, but, rest assured I from this point forward will be incredibly >> picky/choosy about who I offer any help or care to. I may have messed up, >> but you know what? That does not? Give you all the justification to judge >> me, mock me, put me down, make fun of me, disclose confidential information, >> or worst off, on a professional level, not even be willing to help me, and >> be stupid enough! On list, to admit it! I’m beyond appalled! CF, get your >> stuff together, bottom line and realize that when a customer asks for help, >> you don’t do like Scott, and bash a person on list for a professional >> request they made. Beside, you all’re bashing me! First for not following >> guide lines. Now you’re bashing me for! Opening a ticket? I’m totally >> confused. What the heck do you people want! From me! Make up your mind, >> and make it up now! I don’t do this whole two-faced dog mess. >> >> >> >> If quanity is your thing for support/help/friends, and respect/love doesn’t >> matter to you, and you care more about the trait of hatred? That really! >> Hurts my heart, but, knock your darn self out, buddies! However, me? I! >> choose to go for quality. Now, get outta my way’nd leave, me, alone! I’m >> not telling you all again! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Granados >> To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List ; [email protected] >> Cc: 'Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List' >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [MSP] I'm off the list, case closed. >> >> Lol I didn't realize this was a humor list. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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