Hello Paul,

I would just like to add that for people who use several languages, the Mac 
comes with voices and Braille for quite a number of different languages.

Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Sep 2011, at 12:56, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Dear list,
> 
> I have a question for us mac users. If anyone thinks it is off topic, if you 
> have an idea where to better ask this, please let me know.
> 
> Shortly, I will attend a discussion with one of our national funds that help 
> blind people buy a computer.  If a blind person living in the Netherlands, 
> really  cannot afford a computer themselves, and they can't get any financial 
> support from any other organisations, there is a fund that they can call 
> upon, however. It is with these people that I'm going to talk soon.
> 
> Currently, if a blind person gets a computer from this pc fund, then what you 
> get is a Dell configuration with windows and a screen reader. If you want 
> anything else, because you think an Apple computer could give you more 
> possibilities, then you can indeed get financial support if they are going to 
> honor the request for help of course, but then you will get half of the 
> money. This puts windows in favor of a mac, because getting haf of the money 
> means that you still cannot get hold of the other half to make it happen, and 
> because you do need a computer, it's going to be windows.
> 
> This reasoning was understandable, until some 3 years ago. Since then, Apple 
> has given us many new, innovative and exciting possibilities with a mac. What 
> I want to achieve is a change in the way they look at this. No matter if you 
> need a pc or a mac, I would like the fund look at it as being 2 equal 
> solutions, one suited better for a person than the other. Not: windows always.
> 
> What I need from you, is some help in putting together a factual enumeration 
> of reasons for a mac. Reasons that people can check upon, and that hold true. 
> I have a number of questions.
> 
> 1. Which part of the blind community is best helped with a mac?
> My current answer: those who are willing and capable of self study. As with 
> sighted folks, of course this does not include every one. There are courses 
> being developed, but if you have no users, there is no urgent need for 
> courses to get to know the mac. And if there are no courses, there's no urge 
> to buy a mac.  So for the moment, the user will have to be willing to self 
> study.
> Please add to this if appropriate.
> 
> 2. When is a mac preferable?
> My current answer: if the user is willing to solve his own problems,.
> The mac avoids repair cost. if the user is willing to get himself out of 
> trouble when something goes really haywire, then a mac will let you do this, 
> and keep him her independant of sighted help. If you have a current backup, 
> you can restore your system without help, and even install an os the same 
> independant way. This avoids sending out staff to the user to go fix their 
> system problems. Besides, if the hard drive fails, you can still work off of 
> an external usb drive 
> until the hardware is fixed. Please add to this, or contradict it.
> 
> 3. From a user's perspective, Are there any areas where a mac is really 
> better for an independant blind user?
> My current answer: I would say not really. You can get all things done on 
> both systems, but the mac will give you a smoother experience. Speaking for 
> myself, if something doesn't work, it is usually me, who doesn't know how to 
> do it, or something is just plainly inaccessible. You almost never wonder why 
> the system acts strangely this time, and tomorrow it might act differently. I 
> need reasons in daily experiences.
> 
> 4. From the buyer's perspective, in this case the fund paying for the mac for 
> a blind person, is a mac cheaper than a pc?
> My current answer: In the long term yes. Initially, a mac is more expensive. 
> However, you get the screen reader with it, which outweighs the problem of 
> cost for a mac. Further more, if the mac gets updated, usually the screen 
> reader is updated with no further cost. This avoids having to lag behind, 
> where the os is more modern than your screen reader, and you will probably 
> have to spend another sum to update that. Please add to this if appropriate.
> 
> 5. Unknown makes unwanted. Why do funds, insurance companies etc, stick with 
> windows, when there could be a better alternative for a particular user and 
> with respect to price?
> 
> These are my questions for now. I'm not an expert. Just an average user, 
> wanting others to benefit from macs as well as windows pc's, whatever is best 
> for them. The fund is open to input, and I'd rather not let this opportunity 
> pass, now that they are listening. I don't want to favor the mac either. I 
> just want it to become an equal alternative, not suited for everyone, but 
> complementing the array of choices.
> 
> Paul.
> 
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