Christopher Mark Zack, I think you may already know this because the message I'm replying to is a bit old, but you can install growl and then install growl safari, so that you get a spoken message, once a download is complete. If you want to know whether a download is in progress, just check if the rightmost item on the safari toolbar is the download button. If it is, click it. In the new dialog, if the clear button is dimmed, something is still downloading and you can interact with the item to the right of the clear button to see what that is. Once the clear button becomes available, the download seems complete. Press the clear button, and the download button will disappear from the safari toolbar, to appear again next time something starts downloading. Growl can tell you as well, but you need both growl and the extension growl safari. The extension is part of the growl download, as I found out yesterday. Uncomfortable though it may be, we do have enough access. Paul. On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I somewhat disagree with Buddy. OK, the download window is accessible to get > to and once there works, but, if you click a link and a file starts > downoading, you you hear is the link was pressed. You get no indication that > it started downloading a file, so you just have to assume, then go look if > you're so inclined. Definitely! a back-peddle in my opinion. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:16 PM > Subject: Re: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues > > > I agree completely with the mail sluggishness issues, particular if a message > is very long or a conversation thread has more than a few messages in it. > However, I don't see the downloads thing as an accessibility issue at all. > The button is perfectly accessible, there's no trouble finding it, and once > opened, the download window looks just like it did before. It's just > different from the previous version, but IMO, no less accessible. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Dear MacVisionaries, >> I've just sent the following letter to Apple Accessibility. I hope it >> provides a decent summation of some of the issues we've been experiencing >> with the new OS, and that it will give them a better idea of what sorts of >> things should be looked into when they upgrade the product. >> I'll be sure to forward any response I receive. >> Best, >> Zack. >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Zachary Kline <[email protected]> >>> Subject: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues >>> Date: July 21, 2011 1:58:13 PM PDT >>> To: Apple Accessibility <[email protected]> >>> >>> Dear Apple Accessibility, >>> I have recently upgraded my mid 2010 macbook pro to Lion, and have for the >>> most part been quite pleased with its performance. However, there are a >>> few troubling developments which degrade the overall quality of the >>> experience. >>> THe Launchpad and Mission Control features seem mostly accessible, but >>> there are some omissions which render them less useful than they could be. >>> There seems no way to move applications into folders, or indeed at all, >>> using VoiceOver. Drag and drop does not do the expected thing. Mission >>> Control is somewhat better, but Spaces seem impractical because there is >>> neither any way to delete them nor to move between apps in a single space. >>> Safari and Mail also present accessibility problems. Safari's new >>> downloads popup is not ideal accessibility-wise, and while it works after a >>> fashion the old downloads window was preferable. Similarly, Mail seems >>> sluggish, often reporting that it is busy, especially in the new layout. >>> Drag and drop is inconsistent here as well: the Favorites bar can be added >>> to with the new shortcuts, but Voiceover refuses to drag items which have a >>> press action, thus requiring the old mouse toggling shortcut to remove them. >>> These are a representative sampling of the various issues I've encountered >>> in using Lion with VoiceOver. I hope that at least some of these may be >>> fixed in the near future, as this would greatly improve the usability of >>> the system. >>> Yours sincerely, >>> Zack Kline. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
