True, the jump command can be useful, however is that the only method now? To 
create shortcuts, when the option up or down was more than enough?

I'll try your suggestion, but right now i think i need some due sleep :)


Night all 

Yuma 
On 15/09/2011, at 1:38 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi there!
> Well I have not heard anyone mention the jump commands!
> If you could take a look in vo+h+h under the jump section to see if they are 
> still there in Lion!
> If they are still there you press vo+shift+J then vo+shift+either up or down 
> arrow depending on where you want!
> Of course using the vo+shift+up or down without vo+shift+j will either 
> interact or stop interacting!
> This jump command keeps you in the same column [like subject] and I've set a 
> keyboard commander shortcut for mine!
> So all I have to do is  press right option and either 1 or 2 to go from top 
> to bottom and back!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 14 Sep 2011, at 14:04, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Ok,
>> 
>> Let's try this again.
>> 
>> In my list of messages, i want to go to the first message or last message in 
>> the list. Vo home left an right usually are for elements within an 
>> interaction not lists. I use this option up and down for finder all the 
>> time, but it doesn't work in mail anymore. And when i interact with a 
>> message and move up or down, it automatically uninteracts again. Not very 
>> coherent, but i'm trying to get to first or last message in the list, and 
>> your suggestion doesn't work 
>> 
>> Need clarification 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> On 15/09/2011, at 12:45 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> VO shift home, if you're on a laptop, is VO, that is control option, with 
>>> shift, with fn, with left arrow. Fn left arrow is home. So, VO shift end is 
>>> control option shift fn right arrow.
>>> First, you find your messages column in Lion mail, assuming you are in 
>>> non-classic view. VoiceOver will say: message column group. Then, you 
>>> interact with that. Leftmost is sort by date, rightmost is the message 
>>> table. Interact there. Now, you can use vo shift home and end.
>>> Hth,
>>> Paul.
>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Not working 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/09/2011, at 12:34 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> VO shift home is beginning, vo shift end is end of messages table in lion 
>>>>> mail.
>>>>> Hth,
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to know the same thing, as I can't figure it out myself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2011-09-14, at 8:02 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I forgot this one as it used to be option down or up arrow, but can 
>>>>>>> anyone tell me what the lion method for going to first of last item in 
>>>>>>> a list in mail is?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, and best 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yuma 
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