Paul, I have found vo-F to be not so accurate.  I search for things I know are 
there, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  However, I can work between 
the rotor and vo-F to almost duplicate item chooser, but, not nearly as smooth. 
 Well, it is what it is until there's a fix.


On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Neal and others,
> To add to this, if you're looking for a specific word, you can also do a vo f 
> for find, then type in your term, and hit enter. If it finds, then the vo 
> cursor jumps on to it. If not, you will hear a soft sound to indicate failure.
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
> 
>> I know all about the rotor, but, in many cases, I am looking for a 
>> particular word or phrase, not necessarily a link.
>> 
>> I will drop accessibility an email as you suggested.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> 
>>> The problem is caused by I am not exactly sure what, Apple are aware of the 
>>> specific issue with the Item Chooser and VO, and its across the board I'm 
>>> afraid, not just limited to the two aspects you mention.
>>> 
>>> One thing that won't hurt is you dropping a line to [email protected] 
>>> to voice your frustration.
>>> 
>>> For the time being the work around that seems to work for me permanently is 
>>> to use the Web Item Rotor, brought up by using VO-U, rather than VO-I.
>>> 
>>> You will need to ensure that the option for Links is enabled in the Voice 
>>> Over Utility under the Web category / Web rotor options...
>>> 
>>> Personally in this option I only have Headers, Links, Form Controls and 
>>> Auto Web Spots enabled, but you'll find a combination that works for you.
>>> 
>>> Do note that when the rotor appears, you can use left / right arrows to 
>>> change the items being shown between the various settings you have 
>>> allocated in the VO Utility. so for me, based on the above setup, I have 
>>> four tabs, headers, links, auto web spots and form controls.
>>> 
>>> You can then type what you are looking for as with the Item Chooser, and 
>>> for now this works just as well as the Item Chooser, bar that it is a few 
>>> extra steps to jump through.
>>> 
>>> enjoy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> 
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>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Sep 2011, at 04:05, Dan Roy wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know this has ben discussed before, but, I bet, by now, someone has 
>>> figured this out.
>>> 
>>> the Item chooser doesn't seem to work under Lion using either Safari or 
>>> Webkit.  It comes up, but, the letter navigation doesn't work properly.  It 
>>> shows some vary odd results.  I know about VO-F for finding things, but, I 
>>> found that Item chooser works much better, or, at least, it did before I 
>>> upgraded to Lion.
>>> 
>>> Actually, I don't know if it's Lion, the newer version of the browser, or, 
>>> a combination of both.
>>> 
>>> if anyone has any ideas on how to get the item chooser to work, I would 
>>> appreciate knowing about it, thanks.
>>> 
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