Thank a lot for that tip. On 04/10/2011, Shen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > I've had the same problems too. I never had this issue with Snow Leopard, so > this is definitely a VoiceOver and Lion thing. > Here is my workaround. You can try this too. > If you don't get the correct menu when pressing VO-Shift-M, then first put > the mouse on the link by pressing VO-CMD-F5. > Next, hold down the Control key and click the mouse. > This performs a control click on the item where the mouse is. This is > equivalent to opening the shortcut menu. > Whenever I do this, I always get the menu I need. > hth > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:12 PM, David Eagle wrote: > >> Hi Esther. Thank you so much for that very thorough reply. I am always >> humbled by the generosity of people on the list, especially after my >> massive rants. Your option return trick worked a treat. Very strange; >> I don't know why it didn't recognise the link as a download link, - >> weirdly the first download link on the page does work, it's just the >> rest that don't - but at least I have a way round it. >> >> Regarding Safari Busy: I don't think I should be low on System >> resources since I have loads of ram and there shouldn't be anything >> else running in the background; however Safari hasn't been busy today >> so that's good. >> >> Thanks again for taking the time to respond. It is much appreciated. I >> am also very Impressed by your knowledge. It's amazing how used to >> windows I am, since I have used it all my life and still use it at >> work and a bit at home. I will get there eventually. >> >> On 03/10/2011, Esther <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello David, >>> >>> First of all, I'm not sure from your description what is going on, but >>> one >>> way to force the download of linked content such as mp3 files or PDF >>> files >>> when you are focused on the link is to press Option+Enter. (A Mac purist >>> would call this key combination Option+"Return", which is how VoiceOver >>> identifies the key that most Windows users call the "Enter" key when you >>> press it while you are in Keyboard Help mode (turned on with VO+K and >>> terminated by pressing the Escape key; VoiceOver announces the pressed >>> key >>> combinations and their actions but doesn't act on the keys in this >>> mode); >>> on the older Mac keyboards there was both an "Enter" key which could be >>> assigned different functions and a "Return" key). For a few oddly coded >>> sites like the main Blind Cool Tech web site you have to first interact >>> with >>> the link for a podcast before you can use either VO-Shift-M to bring up >>> the >>> contextual menu to select your option (copy link, download linked file, >>> etc.) or press Option+Enter to force a download of the linked file. >>> >>> If your linked MP3 file has started playing in the browser after you >>> activated the link (e.g. by pressing VO-Space or pressing the up and down >>> arrow keys together with QuickNav turned on), then you can get the file >>> to >>> download by pressing Command+L to highlight the URL in the address bar >>> followed by Option+Enter to force the download of your selection. These >>> keyboard shortcuts work generally under Mac OS X and do not depend on >>> VoiceOver. Also, it does not matter if you keep the toolbar of your web >>> browser hidden. Command+L will momentarily open the toolbar and >>> highlight >>> your current address. Then, after you press your Option+Enter, it will >>> close >>> the toolbar. This also works if you want to copy your current URL or go >>> directly to the Google search field with Command+Option+F to type in >>> search >>> terms and press "Return" to execute the search, but still generally keep >>> your toolbar hidden. The toolbar will open for your Command+L, Command+C >>> or >>> your Command+Option+F and entry of typed search terms, and then close >>> again >>> after you press Return or perform your next action. >>> >>> The switch between Safari busy and Safari ready happens when you're >>> running >>> low on system resources. In some cases this can be due to insufficient >>> memory, but if you see this behavior associated with certain web pages >>> it's >>> more likely that the coding for that page is putting extra stress on your >>> Safari browser -- either by the use of dynamically updating javascript or >>> Flash content. Since VoiceOver uses the system memory resources, too, >>> it's >>> sensitive to high usage and inefficiencies. The bigger consumers are >>> Safari >>> and iTunes, which is why you're more likely to hear the "busy" message >>> associated with Safari. This is not specific to Voiceover -- sighted >>> users >>> will refer to a visual cue for "busy" as the "spinning pinwheel of death >>> (or >>> SPOD)" associated with system lockups in the same circumstances. In >>> general, good system maintenance helps minimize these busy messages. You >>> can try clearing out your Safari caches periodically to free up more >>> memory. >>> The "Reset Safari" menu option accessed from the menu bar (VO-M or >>> Control-F2 to the menu bar; navigate to the "Safari" menu with VO-Right >>> arrow or the Right Arrow key of QuickNav, or by pressing "S"; then arrow >>> down to "Reset Safari" or press "r e s" to get there and press return). >>> You >>> can also get there with TrackPad Commander (two finger double tap at the >>> top >>> of the TrackPad to go to the Apple menu; flick right to "Safari" and >>> double >>> tap to select; flick down to "Reset Safari" and double tap.) On the >>> "Reset >>> Safari" menu pane there are various boxes you can check, including >>> "Remove >>> all webpage preview images", "Empty the cache", and "Remove all webpage >>> icons". I always get ride of preview images, since they take up memory >>> and >>> I don't use them. >>> >>> For general system maintenance tools, a good freeware product is OnyX, >>> which >>> is accessible, and which has versions for all Mac OS systems: Lion, Snow >>> Leopard, Leopard, and Tiger. (Make sure to download the one for your >>> operating system). I usually look for programs that are not at the App >>> Store by Googling for them at the MacUpdate site, which uses a standard >>> format for brief description, download link, and information about the >>> date >>> and version of the latest release, along with links to the developer's >>> web >>> site. It also lets me read user comments and ratings about the current >>> version. Googling "OnyX Macupdate" gives: >>> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx >>> and the description: >>> <begin quote> >>> OnyX is a multifunction utility for Mac OS X. It allows you to verify the >>> Startup Disk and the structure of its System files, to run miscellaneous >>> tasks of system maintenance, to configure the hidden parameters of the >>> Finder, Dock and of some of Apple's own applications, to delete caches, >>> to >>> remove a certain number of files and folders that may become cumbersome >>> and >>> more. >>> <end quote> >>> >>> You can also check which processes are using most of your system >>> resources >>> by using the Activity Monitor application in your Utilities folder >>> (Command-Shift-U to navigate there in FInder; press "a" or "a c" to go to >>> "Activity Monitor" and press Command-Down arrow to launch). You may not >>> want to get into this unless you have unusual problems, but you can >>> monitor >>> memory, disk, and CPU usage, as well as quit processes. This all works >>> with >>> VoiceOver. >>> >>> Since you mention visiting the BBC web site, you might want to join the >>> mac-access list. That mailing list is hosted out of the UK, and the list >>> owners run their mail servers on Macs. Gordon Smith did the first >>> extensive >>> podcast on setting up VMWare Fusion for ACB's Main Menu several years >>> back. >>> While it's an international list, with several of this list's members on >>> it, >>> there are a number of list members who discuss using the BBC iPlayer app, >>> and there were recent discussion of the free app "Get iPlayer Automator" >>> working under Lion on that list. Since some of the content to BBC web >>> pages >>> is not available to users outside of the UK, you may find a better >>> audience >>> for your questions about the BBC web pages on that list. >>> >>> I think the information about subscribing to the mac-access list may be >>> found at: >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access >>> >>> The posts are now archived at the Mail Archive web site, and can be >>> searched >>> there: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/ >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 12:21, David Eagle wrote: >>> >>>> It seems as if my relationship with the Mac is one really good >>>> experience followed by one really annoying one. Ive just had a really >>>> successful time subscribing to podcasts in iTunes. I ten went to >>>> download a file from the BBC website. I press VO key shift M like I >>>> would usually do to get to the list of options where I can download >>>> the file. But I don't get that. I get "forward, back, reload page" >>>> etc. If I press the link then it opens and starts plain so it's >>>> definitely a download. Where did my ability to get into the menu that >>>> says "copy link, download linked file" etc go to? I know this will be >>>> sacrilege to a lot of you but I find myself having to go back to my >>>> sluggish windows machine just to get something done because the Mac >>>> breaks things randomly like this. O and now just to top it all off, >>>> real speak Daniel is sounding like he's on steroids. What the hell are >>>> you doing to me Apple? O my god and now Safari keeps saying Busy then >>>> ready then busy then ready. Why can't you make your mind up? are you >>>> busy or ready? Sorry for the rant, but I get very frustrated by the >>>> Mac sometimes, especially since it costs a lot more and seems to just >>>> do the most quirky things. And now it's making silly plopping noises >>>> at me as if I've misspelt a word; but I haven't. I might start writing >>>> some words that will cause you to make plopping noises at me >>>> Macintosh, but they won't be misspelt words; it's just your database >>>> will not have the kind of words I'll be using. I suppose on the plus >>>> side the Mac does run incredibly fast, although that generally means >>>> it has more time to fit more annoying things in to a shorter space of >>>> time. 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