Chris, Alex, and others: There are many things that i use a computer for, both professionally and academically. Unfortunately Safari/VoiceOver doesn't work effectively or efficiently for me. So, Google Chrome Web Browser and ChromeVox addresses most of these things very well.
For example, Docs, Gmail, Calendar, CourseSmart, Blackboard, campus resources, and many other things are stuff I use and need all of the time, such as every single day. Let me provide background of why I cannot use VoiceOver, Safari, and iWork (all due to limitations in one or all of these applications): Safari/VoiceOver cannot do or has trouble with: * Tab browsing (actual tab browsing): when cycling among tabs, VoiceOver doesn't speak title of tab that gains focus. * While navigating within HTML content, VoiceOver often loses focus. * HTML content is some times empty or VoiceOver tries to interact with a title that does not exist. * Navigate to next/previoussHTML element with 4-key method or single-letter HTML nav will not be able to find elements, will report "headings not found", but subsequent presses will find it. * single-letter HTML nav is slow, doesn't always work, and requires several attempts. * item chooser and web rotor often times are missing elements. * VoiceOver will crash or get in a busy loop. Note: * Most of these issues occur in Webkit, Lightning, and Chrome as well. They're VoiceOver issues. * ChromeVox with Chrome have none of these issues at all. In fact, it works exceptionally well. iWork and VoiceOver * Pages has no pre-defined keyboard shortcuts for common task, such as headings, lists, etc. * Pages: VoiceOver does not support/see tables * Numbers: verbose cell coordinate info spoken when navigating. * Numbers: when selecting cells, VoiceOver only speaks x cells selected, which is not at all useful. Note: * I've tried OpenOffice, LibraOffice, Bean, and Tables. They all have their own unique bugs, quirks, and issues, which make them less than ideal, especially when compared to iWork. * All of this is possible, works very well, and is efficient with Google Docs and ChromeVox. Now, to answer your questions: q: As I understand it, though, you don't need ChromeVox except for Google apps and VO works the rest of the time? a: Yes, I absolutely need, must have, and am required to use Google Chrome web browser with ChromeVox extension. No, VoiceOver does not work the rest or most of the time. q: Of course you can use ChromeVox all the time, but is it necessary? a: Yes, it's absolutely necessary. Kevin On 10/10/11, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > As I understand it, though, you don't need ChromeVox except for Google > apps, and VO works the rest of the time? Of course you can use > ChromeVox all the time, but is it necessary? > > On 10/10/11, Kevin Chao <[email protected]> wrote: >> Yes, personally, I mainly use Chrome/ChromeVox and absolutely enjoy, >> appreciate, and can be very productive. I almost never touch Safari and >> haven't done so since I've been using Chrome web browser. Most of my usof >> Mac OS X VoiceOver has stopped because of ChromeVox. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 9, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, i briefly tried out Chrome today and it seemed to work fine with >>> Vo, even without ChromeVox. Is it safe, from an accessibility standpoint, >>> to use Chrome all the time in place of Safari? I have heard a lot of >>> complaints about Safari being busy all the time, and while I have not >>> found this to be the case yet, I have had some odd experiences with >>> Safari >>> that make me wish for ie or firefox. Chrome seems accessible, so could I >>> use it all the time? >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from my iPod) >>> [email protected]; //facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from GMail website) > [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
