Hi Teresa. I just looked with command comma. It goes to five lines back to none. The first thing that comes up is viewing in classic mode. Then if you keep pressing tab it goes the line count option. Now, this last time, VO just said none and did not explain too much. I guess I better set VBO back to high verbosity because it didn't tell me what I had just landed on.
Regards, Gigi On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hmmm, very interesting, Gigi. I wonder what sort of line count you could set > it to. As for keystrokes, I find that control-tab does work, reasonably or > unreasonably, and I like that method, because it puts me right into the > conversation, and I can VO left and right and listen to the entire text of > each message without interacting. If I use return, I have one message at a > time, and if I use VO-J, I also have one message at a time and I have to stop > interacting with each one. Just a point of personal preference, I guess. > > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi Guys. >> I think this Mac newbee may have discovered something you experienced guys >> might not have thought of because you experienced guys would be less likely >> to mess around on the keyboard in desperation. I found that, although the >> tab didn't work like it did before, I could go from message to message with >> it. Also, I found that I could set how many lines I would hear in a preview. >> I went to preferences, I think it was. This means that, if I wanted to, I >> could get a quick review of the message before pressing VO J. I was glad to >> discover that VO J worked and that return would also take you into the >> message. I discovered all this by accident in my messing around on the >> keyboard trying to get to where I wanted to go. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> All right. Given that, what would you recommend as being the fastest way >>> to move through message threads? I find that when I'm focused on a message >>> in the message window, and that message is part of a conversation, pressing >>> return does not open all of the conversation. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>>> The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is >>>> that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text >>>> of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely >>>> want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages >>>> in >>>> the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less >>>> then twice. Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others' >>>> opinion. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2 >>>> >>>> Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was >>>> doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few >>>> days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that >>>> maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would! >>>> >>>> On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Guys. >>>>> dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to >>>>> read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and >>>> tried >>>>> it. It worked. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread >>>>>> as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brett C. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented >>>>>>> anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate >>>> from >>>>>>> mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At >>>>>>> least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that >>>> purpose. >>>>>>> I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit. >>>> Just >>>>>>> a guess, though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTh, >>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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