You might try interacting with the message table first. Once you do that, you 
can press VO-shift-home and -end.

HTH,
Teresa

"Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein

On Oct 30, 2011, at 10:20 AM, dr ahmed alomran wrote:

> hi all
> what about the key short cut which  allows me to move from the top to the 
> botum of inboxes in mail. I have been told that I should press VO plus shift 
> plus home or end. however, when I use this shor cut in my mac book it only 
> puts me to the top or botum of window
> any help?
> kind regards.
> ahmed
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Cochran" 
> <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Did Lion update break my mail behavior?
> 
> 
> Mail has a different default layout in Lion, but you can change it to classic 
> layout in the viewing area of Mail preferences. Once you do this, it should 
> behave as it did in SL.
> 
> In the new layout, there are three panes displayed horizontally, plus a 
> favorites bar that, once you add mailboxes to it, will open them with 
> shortcut keys. I've actually started using the new layout successfully, and I 
> do like the new keyboard shortcuts. But it's really a matter of personal 
> preference, of course.
> 
> HTH,,
> Teresa
> 
> "Visualize whirled peas."
> 
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Been away from the list for a bit and trying to catch up on my mail.  I 
>> haven't seen anything thus far on the list about the Lion update I got when 
>> I checked my software updates.  It was a 47 minute, 900 meg update that kept 
>> me up past my beauty sleep start time. <grin>  Then, after getting back into 
>> mail today, I am unhappy to see that my mail messages behavior is changed.  
>> Before the update, and since I installed Lion, When I opened a message, VO 
>> would automatically start reading the message for me.  No longer.  After 
>> Lion says the word group, which I never heard it say before after opening up 
>> a message, VO goes silent and I am left at the top of the body of the email 
>> message.  Has anyone else downloaded the Lion update?  Does everything still 
>> work as expected like before the update? Now I know that some of you power 
>> users out there are scratching your eggheads, shaking them and saying: 
>> Johnny me lad, this is no biggy.  But please understand that the only power 
>> this four month old baby MacBook Pro user demonstrates is pushin the old 
>> power button to turn Mac on!  <smiley> Anyway, I would like to get things 
>> back to my expected normalness.  Now, I had originally set up Lion mail to 
>> be in simple, non thread mode where, status, number, sender, subject and 
>> date sent were the only things I would hear when left and right VO arrowing 
>> on a closed message.  This seems to be the same.
>> Oh and another funny thing too:
>> It seems that at least once in a while, two finger swiping down on the 
>> trackpad hadn't work either.  I saw a couple of messages on repair 
>> permissions, so I took the wise advice and did just that.  But after getting 
>> back into mail, nothing was changed.
>> Well I said all that to ask two questions:
>> 1. How can I tell what mode my Lion mail program is in?
>> 2. Any other ideas on what may have happened to my nice mail reading 
>> capabilities and how I may go about fixing it?
>> Incidentally, quick nav is off like usual.
>> Johnny Angel!
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
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