Thanks.  I did it a little faster and got mail.  Thanks again for your help.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> After you typed an M, if you wait a few seconds and type an A, you'll land on 
> an app starting with the letter A.  This is why you need to type successive 
> letters quickly until you hear what you want to activate.
> 
> Les
> On Nov 11, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> I try that and it goes to mission control and then something else that 
>> starts with an A.  Am I doing something wrong?
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>> 
>>> Jennifer,
>>> Just start typing in mail when you are in the dock and press enter when you 
>>> hear VoiceOver say "Mail".
>>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control 
>>>> (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail.  That 
>>>> doesn't work.  How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Karon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS 
>>>>> X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a 
>>>>> vast majority are imported graphic files in a container.
>>>>> 
>>>>> as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites 
>>>>> that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some 
>>>>> others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla 
>>>>> firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving 
>>>>> plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for 
>>>>> safari that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to 
>>>>> spend large sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft 
>>>>> based products. This means that I am also limited in how I do some things 
>>>>> on the net (especially where visually based security is concerned.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -eric 
>>>>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal 
>>>>>> department at paypal -ebay.  Part of the reason is that, as some of you 
>>>>>> may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read 
>>>>>> pdf files, or they will lose their account.  Because of this and some 
>>>>>> other access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document 
>>>>>> why things like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive 
>>>>>> tools.  I have told them already that to assume everyone is using jaws 
>>>>>> is impractical, and that still browsers like lynx, with its recent 
>>>>>> edition  dated June 2011, are good foundations for access.  I have 
>>>>>> shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and captcha is flat out an issue, as 
>>>>>> is stuff like flash.
>>>>>> because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this 
>>>>>> opportunity.  What I would welcome is article information, places that 
>>>>>> discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers.  Likewise posts 
>>>>>> from you if you have met with issues with either service would be 
>>>>>> welcome. I want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under 
>>>>>> the corporate rug.  That they are shifting all document responsibility t 
>>>>>> the end user is disturbing, since if you have an issue say with 
>>>>>> security, you will bare the blame for any discrepancies in documentation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under 
>>>>>> your professional umbrella.  If I get enough research responses, i will 
>>>>>> construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as 
>>>>>> I can.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Karen
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