I recall Bill had a USB connection, but if I have this right, this also occurs 
with a firewire connection as well. I am going to test this out.

On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:

> can I clarify something please.
> 
> 1: is the drive an external hard drive?
> 1 a: if so was it purchased as a complete drive or built by you?
> 2: are you using firewire or USB?
> 3: what is the drive partitioned as and what format was used?
> 4: is the drive itself producing strange noises on occasions?
> 
> 
> sorry to ask these, I'm just trying to fathem this issue out. Sometimes the 
> finder can hang causing voiceover to lock in "Busy loop
> 
> this can be due to an issue with external media and I've come across it.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 27 Nov 2011, at 19:11, Bill Holton wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> Actually, it’s not a problem using Disk Utility.  What I was explaining was 
>> that after I use DU to re-partition and format a drive I can’t access it 
>> using Finder.  Ironically, I learned last night that if I use the go to menu 
>> to go to the computer and then open the drive from that list it opens fine.  
>> If I close the drive, move to finder and try to open it from my desktop it 
>> won’t open.  Nor will it open from any file menu box.  Finder starts saying 
>> busy, and it will continue to say busy for 8 hours, which is the longest I 
>> have let things run.  The fan starts running hot and doesn’t stop until I 
>> turn off VO, still can’t access the drive when I turn VO back on, Finder 
>> crashes and won’t let me force quit, have to restart the Mini. Command 
>> Option Escape will supposedly restart it, but all VO sees is a blank screen.
>> I have checked the activity monitor while this is happening.  Finder stays 
>> at a low menmory useage, but VO goes up to 360%--mine is a quad core.
>> And it’s not just USB drives.  When I reformatted one of the mini’s two 
>> internal drives I couldn’t access that one, either, until after I had used 
>> the right click menu to copy a file onto the drive.
>> Last night I reinstalled Lion.  Everything worked fine, until I did a 
>> software update, then it started happening just as before.  So the problem 
>> seems to be in one of the software updates. 
>> I have a server edition of the Mini, which may be the specific Mac or mac 
>> software update this is a problem on.
>> Any further thoughts and suggestions welcome.
>> Bill
>>  
>>  
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:23 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Anyone want to help confirm a bug?
>>  
>> The reason Voiceover goes a little crazy is two fold.
>>  
>> firstly, disk utility is rather intense when it comes to disk management as 
>> it's handling your SATA buses as well as USB and Firewire handling. When you 
>> format an external drive as an example, your USB or firewire BUS is taken 
>> over with that particular instruction, so the CPU is taking up some 
>> resources to manage that process.
>>  
>> as regards voiceover, Sometimes the speech synthesis server has a bit of a 
>> wobble. May I ask what version OS you are using at this point? if it's 10.7, 
>> there are a few niggles to be aware of. 10.6, I've noticed a few things but 
>> nothing that restarting voiceover won't harm.
>>  
>> I use an external disk destroyer suite / diagnostic interface for managing 
>> drives including partitioning, volume testing, data destruction and disk 
>> aging and it's linked via USB so I can either use it standalone or VIA USB / 
>> firewire with disk utility where needed.
>>  
>> just to let you know, don't worry, just quit voiceover and reload it. no 
>> problem.
>>  
>> lew
>>  
>> On 27 Nov 2011, at 11:16, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi BIll,
>>  
>>  
>> So, just to confirm, if you attach an external USB drive, partition/format 
>> the drive, and then attempt to access it VO will go busy? I have been having 
>> some interesting drive issues myself, but not sure if this is related to 
>> what you are experiencing. I'm more than happy to subject a drive to the 
>> experiment. :)
>>  
>> Scot
>>  
>> On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Does anyone have an extra USB drive they can afford to reformat for a little 
>> experiment to see if you get the same problem I do?
>> 
>> Here's the situation.
>> 
>> A few weeks ago I started having trouble with my Time Machine backup.  So I 
>> figured I would just go ahead and repartition it—it's a two-tarabyte drive, 
>> format it and go from there.  Did this,formatted with Mac Extended 
>> journaling, but when I tried to open the drive Finder kept hanging and 
>> reporting busy, busy, busy….  Eventually the fan would come on, the only way 
>> I could stop it was to restart the Mac.This error has been driving me and 
>> the folks at Appple nuts.  First they thought it was a bad USB drive, 
>> happens on all three of my drives.  And if I turn off VO and let my wife 
>> have a crack at it she can get to the drive easily.  Turn back on VO, try to 
>> acces the drive, Busy.  Busy.  Busy.
>> 
>> Strangely, if I copy a file from one of my folders and use the right click 
>> to copy that file to the drive it copies fine, and from that point on I can 
>> access the drive—I'm just not convinced this is a long term solution, and 
>> eventually I will start having more Time machine problems.
>> 
>> So today I bit the bullet and reformatted the drive.  Everything worked 
>> fine…until I tried using iTunes.  iTunes required a software update, and so 
>> the Mac took the opportunity to update all of my OS files as well.  As you 
>> have probably guessed at this point, as soon as the system updates were 
>> installed and the Mac restarted I was back to the same old problems.
>> 
>> I don't have a second mac to try this one, but is anyone else having trouble 
>> accessing freshly partitioned drives via Finder?
>> 
>> Any help much, much appreciated.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
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