Two questions?
Has anyone tried i bank?
I'm trying to figure out the key board commander menu and I'm wondering if 
there's a way for instance to make the insert down arrow on the num pad do the 
function of the VO shift down arrow key.

Thanks

Nancy

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>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> Wireless keyboard [5 Updates]
> skype and accessibility (or the lack of it). [4 Updates]
> regarding inaccessibility of skype in Ios 5 <gh#1435730-2257231#>ar [2 
> Updates]
> driver for Opticbook 3600 [1 Update]
> braille connect 40 inputing text on the mac or Ipad [1 Update]
> Funny iPhone story [2 Updates]
> Num Pad Accessory [1 Update]
> money talks or i bank? [1 Update]
> Establishing a connection between BrailleNote Apex and iPhone? [2 Updates]
> Skype Accessibility [5 Updates]
> e-bay audio verification won't play [1 Update]
>  Wireless keyboard
> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Dec 15 05:03PM com0600  
> 
> Actually, I have found that with Safari on the iPhone that I have used a 
> combination of the keyboard and the screen. For instance, VO command h goes 
> to headings. I think VO command l goes to links. You're just running 
> VoiceOver like on the Mac, so I have just tried out keys that work on the 
> Mac. A lot of times they do, except that interacting doesn't seem to be an 
> issue on the iPhone and I guess on the iPad, although I don't have one of 
> those yet. 
>  
> Regards,
> Gigi
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
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> 
>  
> Rachel Magario <[email protected]> Dec 15 08:57PM com0600  
> 
> for the rooter I just use the quick nab key on and navigate through the 
> elements of your rooter by using the left plus up key or right and up key. 
> then just use your up and down to navigate the element you chose.
> and right and left to move through the all the elements of the site.
> HTH.
> Rachel.
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
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> 
>  
> Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> Dec 16 04:16PM +0530  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Thank you so much for your help.
> You guys are great!
> BTW, I have one question.
> Is there a key combination using which we can turn VoiceOver on or off?
> I usually do it by following the entire procedure of going to
> accessibility for turning it on or off.
> So, is there a way of doing it with a simple keystroke like we do it
> on the Mac?
>  
> 
>  
> "Red.Falcon" <[email protected]> Dec 16 11:08AM  
> 
> Hi again Rahul!
> That link does have a lot of the commands!
> But the speech on/off is vo+so and screen curtain on/off is vo+shift+so!
>  
> hth Colin
>  
> On 16 Dec 2011, at 10:46, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
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> 
>  
> Aser Tolentino <[email protected]> Dec 16 03:26AM com0800  
> 
> If you have triple-click home set to VoiceOver, triple-tapping escape will 
> toggle it on and off also.
>  
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
>  
>  skype and accessibility (or the lack of it).
> Eric Oyen <[email protected]> Dec 15 08:05PM com0700  
> 
> well,
> I sent in a letter to the Skype team asking why they removed an old feature 
> (accessibility via voiceover) and the form letter I got back is enough for me 
> to ask cond I have stupid printed across my forehead? must be, because you 
> seem to think I am!".
>  
>  
>  
> these guys think accessibility is a new feature (or at least their form 
> letter response indicates such). Hell, I requested a human response and got a 
> machine generated one. this is what I call a lack of customer support.
>  
> here is the letter they sent back to me...
>  
> Subject: Re: regarding inaccessibility of skype in Ios 5 
> <gh#1435730-2257231#>ar
> From: Skype Customer Service <[email protected]>
> Date: December 15, 2011 2:49:59 PM MST
> To: Eric Oyen <[email protected]>
> Hello Eric,
> 
> Thank you for contacting Skype Customer Service.
> 
> We understand that you would like to do a follow up on the Voice over feature 
> of Skype for it's latest version. Please allow us to assist you.
> 
> We regret to inform you that unfortunately this feature is not currently 
> available in Skype. 
> 
> We will pass on your request to our development team for consideration and 
> potential inclusion in a future release.
> 
> We appreciate your feedback and will definitely look into it. 
> 
> However, implementing changes and creating new features can take time, which 
> means that the suggestions you make today might not be available in the near 
> future. 
> 
> Please be patient while we work to make Skype even better.
> 
> Should you need more assistance, feel free to contact us again.
> 
> Best Regards,
>  
> Ivan C.
> Skype Customer Service
> 
>  
> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:09PM com0600  
> 
> time to take it further then. Quote their own letter to them and then say 
> exactly what you just said to us. Make them respond!
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
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> 
>  
> Eric Oyen <[email protected]> Dec 15 11:38PM com0700  
> 
> read my bcc response to them (just sent).
>  
> comeric
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
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> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Dec 16 02:40AM com0600  
> 
> Did. Couldn't have done it better myself.
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:38 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
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> 
>  
>  regarding inaccessibility of skype in Ios 5 <gh#1435730-2257231#>ar
> Eric Oyen <[email protected]> Dec 15 11:37PM com0700  
> 
> this might sound a little terse b...
>  
> Do I have a sign pasted to my forehead that says "STUPID"?!? I wrote to you 
> requesting a real human contact, not an apparently machine generated 
> boilerplate.
>  
> now for the gist of my complaint:
>  
> 1. previous versions of Skype on the "iDevices" (such as the iPhone, iPad and 
> iPod) had this accessibility feature. so, why not the new version? it appears 
> that your team left out this very important feature. I do not care if this 
> was an accidental omission or by deliberate design. the fact is that it is a 
> deliberate slap in the face for every blind or print impaired individual on 
> the planet that uses one of these devices (there are more than 5 million of 
> us so far). 
>  
> also, the fact that all I received for my efforts (besides not being able to 
> read my text messages) is poor customer service. any reasonable company will 
> have some staff on hand to handle special cases such as I. so far, your team 
> has not done so (as evidenced by your boilerplate response). thus, I am 
> forced to try and find an older version and reinstall it to my iphone just to 
> get back what I had. this is entirely unacceptable.
>  
> I don't want to have to escalate this, but if you continue to be 
> unresponsive, I will be left with no choice but to contact microsoft customer 
> support (as microsoft is the new parent company of Skype). 
>  
> so, do me the favor of at least respecting my request and put back the 
> accessibility your application previously had.
>  
> comeric oyen.
>  
> * this message will be carbon copied to the blind community that has a vested 
> interest in accessibility. As I am one of the parties involved, I invoke my 
> right to use the information contained herein under the fair use directive of 
> the US Copyright Act..
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Skype Customer Service wrote:
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> 
>  
> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Dec 16 02:39AM com0600  
> 
> That's the way I myself would have said it. Good going.
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
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> 
>  
>  driver for Opticbook 3600
> Daniel Crone <[email protected]> Dec 15 11:47PM com0600  
> 
> Hello. On Plustek's web site, there is a driver for the plustek opticbook 
> 3600 scanner. But it is only for system 6.3 and below. I have 644..8. Anyone 
> have a solution?
> 
>  
>  braille connect 40 inputing text on the mac or Ipad
> Rachel Magario <[email protected]> Dec 15 10:07PM com0600  
> 
> Let me check. I was just trying to enter words and I did not pay attention to 
> that.
> RM
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
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> 
>  
>  Funny iPhone story
> Keith Watson <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:20PM com0500  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> A better answer would have been that Bill Gates stole the idea for Winblows 
> from Apple.
>  
> Just sayin'
>  
> Keith
>  
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Gigi wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:34PM com0500  
> 
> Wow!
>  
> Thats a bit out there. Steve Jobs didn't even say that much in his own 
> biography.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
>  
> 
>  
>  Num Pad Accessory
> Keith Watson <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:23PM com0500  
> 
> Will, you used to have to hold the Voice Over keys and navigate with the 
> arrow keys. Quick Nav basically locks you into Voice Over mode so you don't 
> need to hold down the VO keys. It also allows you to rotate through the rotor.
>  
> HTH 
>  
> Keith
>  
> On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:03 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>  
> 
>  
>  money talks or i bank?
> Becky Knaub <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:01PM com0500  
> 
> Hi All,
> I am curious. What does this program do, I never heard of it.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Becky and C
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
>  
> 
>  
>  Establishing a connection between BrailleNote Apex and iPhone?
> Dan Roy <[email protected]> Dec 15 07:23PM com0600  
> 
> That's quite weird, the other day, someone from FS was at our work, and, he 
> demonstrated entering text with the Focus. I wonder why the heck it isn't 
> supported with the BN? Since they're both bluetooth devices, what the heck is 
> the difference? I know, I am showing my ignorance, so, enlighten me please?
>  
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Dec 15 08:43PM com0500  
> 
> The Focus likely had a braille keyboard. The device in question in
> this thread is an apex qt, meaning it has a standard computer
> keyboard, not a braille one.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> [email protected]; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
> 
>  
>  Skype Accessibility
> Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> Dec 15 03:24PM com0600  
> 
> Hi guys.
> I was trying to decide if I wanted to weigh in on this. I wish to say that 
> they have a lot of company when it comes to accessibility. Cy own 
> sister-in-law, who does software development for her company, said to me, of 
> all people, "We just can't do it. There's just too many needs out there." My 
> own brother, who is married to this gal, made all kinds of excuses once when 
> we were discussing why the hotel people couldn't make some of their 
> appliances like tv's accessible. I almost said to my sister-in-law, "Apple 
> did it, so what's wrong with the rest of you guys. Are they smarter than you 
> or what?" I decided that to keep peace in the family, especially since I was 
> never going to change this stubborn gal's mind about this, that I would keep 
> my big mouth shut. I'm afraid for people like this the law would have to be 
> changed. In the meantime, let's hope my sister-in-law doesn't go to work for 
> Apple.
>  
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> "Mr. L. Alexander" <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:26PM  
> 
> lol
>  
> fell off chair howling like crazy.
>  
> sounds like someone I know only too well.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 15 Dec 2011, at 21:24, Eugenia Firth wrote:
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>  
> Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> Dec 15 09:25PM  
> 
> A pity that the latest beta has nothing fixed yet. As they say the proof will 
> be in the pudding as we all know, as I have beta tested before, it does not 
> matter what is said, the manufacturers will do as they see fit regardless.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
>  
> Shawn Krasniuk <[email protected]> Dec 15 05:04PM com0600  
> 
> Actually, going back to not seeing contacts when Skype starts, my focus 
> always goes to the contact list. Maybe it's because I'm using Skype 5.3 or 
> because when I turn off my computer, I never sign out or quit Skype. Also, I 
> have it startup when I turn on the Mac.
>  
> Shawn
> 
>  
> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Dec 15 08:06PM com0500  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Why do you think its a case of stepping on toes? I think its more a case of 
> why bother if others are bothering for us? But on another note, narrator on 
> windows 8 sounds like its gotten a shot in the arm. lol. For whatever that's 
> worth. But I fear this is straying way off topic. conwere
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
>  
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>  
> 
>  
>  e-bay audio verification won't play
> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Dec 15 03:27PM com0600  
> 
> Not sure.
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
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