Frankly I would like some additional information too. perhaps from you
both.
where is the information that the Kendal is deliberately not blind
friendly? I might add that those with learning disabilities use speech as
well, so this is not if correct intentionally not blind friendly, but not
disability friendly.
More to the point though, given I recall both the department of education
and the department of justice got on Amazon's case about access since
students use the Kendal for school, your description does not seem
accessible at all, if other users can do this.
how on earth can one use a novel for class or in my case a book for
research if I cannot interact with the text, go by line or even word,
take notes or anything else?
many books do not have text to speech turned on, and I hear from those using
it, those who do not experience a print challenge, that the text to
speech leaves much to be desired where pronunciation's is concerned.
so the pc edition lets you use your screen reader, but you still cannot
well navigate as one might for a variety of reasons?
nor can you download the book to the device either?
Like amazon itself the Kendal store and format has far too much reach for
this to be regarded as an accessible or acceptable idea at all.
You could use for example tone indexing to navigate through nls materials,
and rfb&D books now learning Ally, so a person who needs their text books
in e-format, something other students can get, is at a major disadvantage.
Are we both understanding the limits clearly though?
Karen
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Christine Grassman wrote:
so, if I understand you correctly, if I purchase a Kindle with the
accessibility plug-in, using the keyboard to read is accessible: I can start,
stop, pause, etc., without sighted assistance? However, if I am interrupted
unexpectedly, or if I lose the place where I was reading, there is no way for
me to find the place where I left off without sighted assistance, except by
having the device read all the wy through to that spot? No ability to even go
page by page or chapter by chapter independently to speed such a thing up? I
appreciate any clarification. I am constantly frustrated by not being able to
buy an e-book available in the Kindle store because of the great selection, but
I have to figure out if the accessibility headache is worth the money and
whether, in fact, I want to support a device which could so easily be
accessible but is deliberately not blind-friendly for spurious reasons.
Christine
On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Kindle for pc with accessibility plug in and kindle keyboard both have some
accessibility. If you are happy with being able to read books that have text to
speech enabled, but don't care about reviewing line by line, spelling words or
names, taking notes and knowing the context once you go back and look at the
notes, and you are ok with shopping in the store on your pc or mac, not on the
device itself, then Kindle keyboard will have some utility for you. Kindle for
pc has the advantage that even books that don't have tts enabled will still
work with the accessibility plug in. You must have a screen reader running at
the same time, but the books are read by either the Samantha or Tom voices, as
they are on Kindle Keyboard. There is absolutely no Kindle accessibility on the
Mac or with VO, and the updates to the accessibility for both the keyboard
device and the pc plug in have been nominal to nonexistent. Because Kindle
store has stuff I can't find anywhere else, I have used both the kindle for pc
with plug in and the Kindle Keyboard for straight reading of novels that can be
done like you use to read a library of congress talking book tape or record.
Just don't plan on efficient navigation or serious interaction with the text.
Mary
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