Tim,

THanks for sharing and this is absolutely ridiculous  that you have to jump 
through such hoops. I know you complained, but I'm going to complain as well. 
After all this is probably one of the more accessible commercial server 
packages available. I can't speak to windows server products.

Thanks,

On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:38 AM, TIM KILBURN wrote:

> Hi Yuma/Scott,
>> 
>> 1.  For adding Users  to Groups in WGM, it works in either direction.  That 
>> is, adding the users to the Group or adding Group membership to the specific 
>> user.  In each situation, use the SL drag and drop method and things work 
>> properly, I haven't had much success with the Lion method in WGM.
>> 
>> I usually do it from the Group prospective when adding users to a Group as I 
>> find it easier to manage.  Here's my best recollection as I'm out of town 
>> right now and doing this from memory.
>> 
>> • Select the Groups tab.
>> • Select the Members tab.
>> • Interact with the Groups table and select the Group you wish to add 
>> members to.
>> • check the Add button.
>> 
>> This should open the Users Drawer for you..  The Users Drawer appears way up 
>> by the Toolbar so I usually just press VO-home to get me quickly to the 
>> Toolbar then VO-right to the Drawer.
>> 
>> • Interact with the Drawer.
>> • Interact with the Table and navigate to the user you wish to add.
>> • Turn off cursor tracking and mouse down on the user to pick it up.
>> • Stop Interacting with the Table, as well as  the Drawer and navigate to 
>> the membership Table.
>> • Interact with it then mouse up to drop the User there.
>> 
>> If you have multiple users to do this to, just use whatever multiple 
>> selection method works in your situation, contiguous or non-contiguous 
>> selecting.
>> 
>> 2.  For accessing the User or Group Preferences in WGM, I first had to 
>> figure out the following placement of the various Preference items.  I put 
>> this list into a TextEdit file in case I forget.  They are set up in rows of 
>> three in this manner:
>> 
>> Applications - Classic - Dock
>> Finder - Login - Media Access
>> Mobility - Network - Parental
>> Printing - Software Updates - System Preferences
>> Universal Access
>> 
>> Each item brings up an accessible pane for setting User/Group/Computer 
>> preferences.  The problem is that these are not visible to VO at all, nor 
>> can you use HotSpots to locate them.  So I've just used mouse keys instead.  
>> There may be another way but I got so used to using mouse keys that I'm 
>> stuck with it so far.  Here's what I do.
>> 
>> • Select Preferences in the toolbar.
>> • Select the Users, Groups or Machines tab depending on what I wish to 
>> control.
>> • Select the User or Group from the Table.
>> • Stop Interacting with the Table and VO-left where it says something about 
>> "Select one or more Accounts...".
>> • I then press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure my mouse is where the VO-cursor just 
>> read.
>> • Press the Option key five times to turn mouse keys on.  (You set this up 
>> in the Universal Access pane of System Prefs).
>> • Press the "2" key on the number pad 60 times to go down to the first row, 
>> 125 for the second, 190 for the third and 250 for the fourth.
>> 
>> This will land you on the middle item of the row of three and, yes, I lose 
>> count sometimes and have to start over.  That's probably why I've complained 
>> to Apple about it to no avail.  You don't have to be exact but if you go too 
>> far down, you'll end up in the next row and have to start over anyway.
>> 
>> • If you want the first item, like Applications, move left 140 times with 
>> the "4" key on the numPad or if you wish the right most item in the row, use 
>> the "6" key 140 times to land on it.
>> 
>> • When you suspect that you're on the correct item, just press the "5" key 
>> for the mouse press.
>> 
>> Voila, all the inaccessible stuff now becomes accessible.  You can set which 
>> apps are allowed, which printers are available, what's on the users Dock, 
>> how they access Software Updates, restrict the Internet and lots of other 
>> things.  You can always have control, sometimes (which means set it up the 
>> first time then let them do whatever afterwards), or never control that 
>> preference.  If you really want to dig deep, you can play with MCX 
>> Preference Manifests in the Details tab of WGM.  This sort of detail allows 
>> you to specifically control the state of specific preference items like 
>> homepage in Safari, whether Word Auto-Saves and much more.
>> 
>> Hope this is clear.  If I've messed up at all, let me know and I'll look at 
>> WGM when I get home after this weekend and fix the steps I may have missed. 
>> Otherwise, have fun but be careful, you do have the power to mess things up.
>> 
>> Later..
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Yuma Decaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> You previously mentioned a method to access user preferences in Workgroup 
>> manager, which would probably be helpful to SCott's home server endeavor.
>> 
>> Can you give us a short how-to? I can't remember the one that was suggested 
>> for adding users to groups etc as i now use the iphone app.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma 
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