Thanks to all for the information; this definitely gives me a lot to think about, and clears up my confusion.
On 2/5/12, Bill Holton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. > > I have a sort of advanced question about CCC. > > I just learned I cannot clone a drive to a network drive, i.e., the one > connected to my airport excpress. I suppose I could temporarily connect the > drive to my minidirectly and have a clone that way, but I'm wondering if > there is some way to clone to a smaller USB drive I have lying around > gathering dust. > > The drive is only 80 gig, and the OS drive on my mini has about 300 gig > currently. But I think if I were to move the Users foler to another drive > and temporarily delete it I can get the drive under the 80 gig, clone it and > have a Lion USB HD I could boot from in an emergency. But I don't know if > there are any critical files, libraries or such, that are hidden away in the > users folder that would make this not work. > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: time machine? > > > > as good as using time machine may be, using it as a resource has it's good > and bad points from my experiences. I use carbon copy cloner or in certain > instances directly dock the hard drive to a drive clone suite with a restore > reference where possible. but that's from an advanced technical side and not > the consumer arena. Carbon copy is an amazing product and I have to say it > does it's job for drive clones and backup instances. it's certainly saved my > skin on clients machines and for the charity. Time machine I find at times > more of a hassle so I don't use it. I don't have an airport system or time > capsule as my backup system is in a 19" rackmount system RAID spec for both > windows and mac side of the workflow. > > > > if anyone's looking for a disk duplicator, carbon copy's the way to go. > > > > superduper is also another interesting app I've just decided to road test > today for experimental and review purposes. > > > > lew > > > > On 5 Feb 2012, at 18:30, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > > > > > A few points. > > 1. There are a couple of full disk backup utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner and > SuperDuper ) come to mind immediately. > 2. I believe at least one VM version out there creates its disk images in a > bundle that would allow TimeMachine to not need to copy everything for one > small change. > 3. THere is at least one off-site storage solution that allows one to use > a friends machine for the backups. > > Best regards, > > Jonathan C. Cohn > [email protected] > > > > On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > > > In that case Chris it would make sense to share a folder as you said. I > never save documents or anything in a VM for that reason. Of course if your > wise you limit the VM i.e. windows to only see one folder which is a > security measure. > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > > While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to share > the documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows instance. That > would be a nice way to get your windows documents backed up, although it > wouldn't help with the rest of your Windows setup. Normally you don't want > to have the virtual machine image backed up by time machine because it is a > giant monolithic file. So one little change made under Windows and the > entire multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged for backing up again. Possible > if you are on a local fast big time machine drive, but still kind of a > waste. > > > > CB > > > > On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Alex, > > > > I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to > the same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but nothing > is necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a well > crafted APple script on the Mac side. > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > > > I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my > > Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the > > Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os > > partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there, > > I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date. > > Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and > > windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony, > > but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever > > becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical > > land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical > > settings and apps. > > > > On 2/3/12, agent086b<[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac. > > Max. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: time machine? > > From: Alex Hall<[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500 > > Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question: > > 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document. > > 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the > > process. Let us say this was done on January 1. > > 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive > > modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from > > your January 1 backup. > > What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is > > that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on > > Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and > > make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would > > not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably > > have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen > > between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I > > hope that makes sense. > > > > On 2/3/12, Scott Howell<[email protected]> wrote: > > Alex answers follow below: > > > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > 1. Will any external hard drive work? > > ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure > > you > > have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a > > drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing > > up. > > THis is not a requirement, but a consideration. > > > > > > 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a > > partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by > > Windows computers? > > I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes > > care > > of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple > > partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups. > > > > 3. Is time machine fully accessible? > > I have not had any problems using TIme Machine. > > > > > > 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off > > an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I > > just browse to that file and copy it like normal? > > Yes. > > > > 5. Is anything not backed up? > > The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that > > have > > no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you do > > not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of > > the > > OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would > > not > > want these files. > > > > 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what > > happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders > > so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older > > versions? > > Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition would occur > > really. 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