hi,

does anyone use Crossover with the mac? is it accessible? work are about to buy 
me a mac and I want to be able to have windows installed (for the rare things - 
like sharing of endnote libraries) and my sighted friend suggested I use 
crossover instead of parallels do you know if it works. also has anyone used 
mendaly as a reference management tool - again is it accessible?

thanks 

Julie 

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On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:34, [email protected] wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> the messages beta [7 Updates]
> Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox! [5 Updates]
> Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion [7 Updates]
> instructions on how to use pages with voice over? [2 Updates]
> LibreOffice 3.5.0 [1 Update]
> accessible world classrooms [2 Updates]
> multipart archives [1 Update]
>  the messages beta
> Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> Feb 16 11:27AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all.
> I've just played briefly with the messages public beta and everything looks 
> great.
> One thing that's really rad is that you can easily put emojies in to you're 
> messages without having to jump through any hoops. The best part of this is 
> that VoiceOver reads the different emojies.
> Hope you find this useful,
> Matthew Campbell.
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Feb 16 11:32AM -0500  
> 
> Where do you get this beat?
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
>  
> On 2012-02-16, at 11:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Feb 16 11:39AM -0500  
> 
> Its on the Apple site.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
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> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter <[email protected]> Feb 16 08:41AM -0800  
> 
> What if you're still purring along with the snow kitty? Will snow kitty play 
> with the messages beta? Hmmm.
>  
>  
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> 
> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Feb 16 12:02PM -0500  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> no. You must be running Lion.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:10AM -0800  
> 
> I wonder if I can go from 10.6.8 to 10.8--seems to make more sense to wait 
> for the mountain kitty at this point.
>  
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> 
> Matthew Campbell <[email protected]> Feb 16 12:26PM -0500  
> 
> Hi.
> I found a direct download link on Macrumors.
>  
> On 2012-02-16, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
> John Panarese <[email protected]> Feb 15 05:09PM -0500  
> 
> Absolutely. If you can get a monitor, that is obviously the easiest solution. 
> In my situation, I don't have the space for a monitor with the current setup. 
> So, the converter box and adaptor fit the bill. However, I do have a monitor 
> around in case I need sighted assistance.  I just wanted folks to know that 
> there is a setup that will work if they don't have a monitor and that Apple 
> is not completely aware that the newer Minis still can't work well without a 
> monitor. Please contact me off list if anyone wants the actual hardware 
> recommendations that were suggested to me and I now use.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John Panarese
> [email protected]
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> John Panarese <[email protected]> Feb 15 05:11PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Esther,
> Thanks for saving me the effort of digging up Chris's info. I have it around 
> here, but I can never remember which folder I saved it to. *smile*
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John Panarese
> [email protected]
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Esther wrote:
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>  
> 
> annelie robledo <[email protected]> Feb 15 10:02PM -0600  
> 
> Thank you for this tip. I have a mac book and lately my finder was extremely 
> slow. I removed drop box from the log in and every thing is good now. Again 
> thank you.
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch <[email protected]> Feb 16 10:23AM -0500  
> 
> Cheapest monitor I could find with shipping and all was pushing $100 so 
> it's not a whole lot cheaper to go the adapter route, but $40 is $40, 
> especially if you don't have room.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 2/15/12 5:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>  
> 
> "Bill Holton" <[email protected]> Feb 16 11:13AM -0500  
> 
> Do you already have another computer with a monitor? If so a VM switch
> would be way to go.
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
>  
> Cheapest monitor I could find with shipping and all was pushing $100 so 
> it's not a whole lot cheaper to go the adapter route, but $40 is $40, 
> especially if you don't have room.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 2/15/12 5:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> > Absolutely. If you can get a monitor, that is obviously the easiest
> solution. In my situation, I don't have the space for a monitor with the
> current setup. So, the converter box and adaptor fit the bill. However, I
> do have a monitor around in case I need sighted assistance. I just wanted
> folks to know that there is a setup that will work if they don't have a
> monitor and that Apple is not completely aware that the newer Minis still
> can't work well without a monitor. Please contact me off list if anyone
> wants the actual hardware recommendations that were suggested to me and I
> now use.
>  
> > On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>  
> >> John, thanks for the tip that this option is still available.
>  
> >> I wonder though; -seems like for the price, one might just as well by an
> inexpensive monitor! lol!
>  
> >> Cara :)
> >> On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:12 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>  
> >> No, you can still fool the newer Minis into thinking you have a
> monitor. I have a mid 2011, and it works fine without a monitor. You need
> to get a mini VGA display port and a converter box. It's a setup that will
> run about $60 in total, but it works fine if you really don't want or you
> don't have a monitor.
> >> [email protected]
>  
> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>  
> >>> You definitely need to at least have a monitor connected, the older
> minis, from before 2008 could get around this by connecting the adapter that
> allows you to connect it to a TV through the RCA plug. All newer minis
> however, must be connected to a monitor, no way around it.
> >>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>  
> >>>> Beofre I bought my Mini I called Apple twice and asked if this would be
> a
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
>  
> >>>> Do you have the mac mini connected to a monitor, if not, it may cause
> this
> >>>> kind of behavior, the monitor does not need to be turned on, just
> connected.
> >>>>> stopper for me.
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>  Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion
> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:39AM -0500  
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> Hi folks,
>  
> Apple has given us a sneak peek at Mountain Lion do out this summer. They 
> have released messages beta. Its basically like iMessage on IOS. M Lion 
> sounds like there going full steam ahead with IOS/Mac osx intergration. 
> Mountain Lion will be adding Messages, Reminders, game center and 
> notifications.
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> Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> Feb 16 08:45AM -0600  
> 
> Ah, I see. Any hint as to accessibility and stability issues?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
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>  
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
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> Brandon Misch <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:48AM -0500  
> 
> any news on the system requirements. hope that you don't need more ram. this 
> machine is already maxed out. 
>  
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
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> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:51AM -0500  
> 
> I have no clue. I'm just going by what Apple has up on their site.
>  
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
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> Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:52AM -0500  
> 
> Wonder how much this is going to cost?
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
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> On 2012-02-16, at 9:51 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
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> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> Feb 16 09:58AM -0500  
> 
> Well,
>  
> I figure it wouldn't cost anymore than the last 2 versions of Mac OSX.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
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> Chris Blouch <[email protected]> Feb 16 10:04AM -0500  
> 
> This article has a few more details about the upcoming release:
>  
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-57378751-248/apple-mac-os-x-mountain-lion-takes-more-bites-out-of-ios/
>  
> CB
>  
> On 2/16/12 9:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
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>  instructions on how to use pages with voice over?
> Steve Holmes <[email protected]> Feb 16 04:29AM -0800  
> 
> Being new to the Mac and all, just what format does Pages support? I
> mean, are the documents compatible with MS Office or OpenOffice or
> LibreOffice? Or is Pages yet another proprietary format of documents?
> I'm curious because I've begun proofreading some RTF documents from
> Bookshare and I can't see all the formatting to verify while in Text
> Edit; I'm thinking / hoping Pages might offer me more control. Is
> that possible?
>  
> 
> Becky Knaub <[email protected]> Feb 16 08:39AM -0500  
> 
> Pages can save and open RTF, Doc and DOcx formats to name a few. Unless you 
> pull down the disclose option I think it is called in save as you will find 
> your documents are saved in pages format. As for open office I am not sure 
> because I have never used it. I wonder if its more accessible. I have tried 
> looking for it on the app store but never found it.
>  
> HTH. 
>  
> Becky and C
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
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>  LibreOffice 3.5.0
> Steve Holmes <[email protected]> Feb 16 05:39AM -0800  
> 
> That's interesting about this product because I found the 3.5.0
> version in Linux to work a little better for me than its prior
> versions. I like it in Linux but I'm sorry to hear that it is poor in
> Macdum. Thanks for the bug report reference; I may follow that bug
> myself also.
>  
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:09:32AM -0500, Chris Blouch wrote:
>  
> 
>  accessible world classrooms
> "Badger, Nancy" <[email protected]> Feb 16 03:35AM  
> 
> I tried everything I could think of to get into the accessible world 
> classrooms for the first time tonight. I downloaded what they said to 
> download, I found a place where they asked for a username and password but I 
> didn't have one. My husband who is sighted tried and he couldn't get in 
> either. Can someone give me instructions using a mac with voice over?
> Thanks
> Nancy
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> "Red.Falcon" <[email protected]> Feb 16 10:21AM  
> 
> Hi Nancy!
> Well I hope this helps!
> Here is a link that is for Mac users to use the Talking Communities rooms!
> When I last went into a room [but not Accessible world one] there was really 
> bad echoing from the people in the room!
> But I hope that might of been fixed!
> Or not a problem in Accessible world!
> So here's the link! :]
>  
> http://talkingcommunities.com/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=85
>  
> On 16 Feb 2012, at 03:35, Badger, Nancy wrote:
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>  
> 
>  multipart archives
> Gerry Cook <[email protected]> Feb 16 05:41PM +1100  
> 
> Hi i've had success with stuffit expander and theunarchiver from the mac app 
> store as free apps, they are worth a try.
> cheers gerry have a great day
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