One thing I did with my mac mini was to set up at least one app to run at login time. In my case, I chose terminal as I do like to go into the shell quite often. For some reason, when I do this VoiceOver will always come up talking after login and the finder focuses me on the desktop. I have terminal start but be hidden; otherwise, it would probably take focus.
On 3/28/12, AZ <rosopo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. > I also cann't move to beginning and end of the list of messages in the > Mail using standard commands. In other lists and edit fields I can. > AZ > > 28.03.2012 21:48, Les Kriegler wrote: >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> Okay, that did it. I thought I had interacted with the messages table, >> but apparently not. Thanks. >> >> Les >> On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> you need to interact with the messages table before doing the command to >>> get to the top of the table. About Voiceover not talking at start up, I >>> don't think there is a sure fire way to get rid of that. At least, not >>> away that I know of. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Les Kriegler<kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This is my first experience with Lion. I'm using Mail and like the way >>>> messages are broken into conversation by default. Sometimes, I wind up >>>> at the bottom of the message list and cannot get back to the top of the >>>> list. I thought the keystroke to accomplish this was VO Shift Home and >>>> End, but they are not working for me. How do I go to the top and bottom >>>> of the message list. Also, I still have to bring focus to the Finder to >>>> get VO to talk upon a restart or clean start after shutdown. On >>>> occasion, VO does talk automatically, but usually, that does not occur. >>>> Does the Finder need to be configured in any way for VO to talk >>>> automatically without intervention from me? I also need to bring focus >>>> to the Finder when coming out of hibernation mode. Is this normal in >>>> Lion? Thanks for the assist. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
