Hi Ricardo.
I'm not against any company making money. However, I think that sometimes, when 
it comes us totally blind folks, too many companies assume they can't do 
something when they could combine features to make it "universal access." 
That's why I said what I did. There are going to be programs out there, because 
of the nature of the program, that we totally blind folks will never be able to 
use. That's just the way it is. However, I think too many times software is 
made inaccessible to us totals when it doesn't have to be, especially if good 
planning is done from the start. I think it is especially important for a 
company writing specialized software to make that software "universally 
accessible" to their customers. I didn't used to think that until I met several 
people who had gotten from the state magnification software for their computer, 
then lost vision, and found themselves with a useless computer. For Windows, 
this software costs so much that it is bad business, in my view, not to make it 
versatile. 

Let's make this discussion a little more on our topic since I think we've 
drifted a little. As for companies making money, I hope Apple, for one, 
continues to make stacks and stacks of it. In fact, I want Apple to continue to 
make so much money that they won't look around and says to themselves one day: 
"We better get rid of those VoiceOver users. They're too much trouble, and we 
could save a lot by not working with them any more." 
Regards,
Eugenia Firth
[email protected]



On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Why shouldn't they want to make money?  Its a company, not a not for profit 
> agency after all.  The people that work there can't feed themselves on the 
> gratitude of blind people.  Now, should they price gouge?  Of course not.  
> But to admit you want to make money is no bad thing in my eyes.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Gigi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys
>> It really bothers me that a company that makes specialized software would 
>> make a remark about not doing software for us totally blind folks because 
>> they couldn't make any money on it. First of all, I have a real problem that 
>> there is a special software for the totally blind folks, and another 
>> software for others. But they really need, is Kurzweil 4000, to combine 
>> everything. I see no reason why they can't do it. It seems to me, they just 
>> don't want to. Besides, if one is a partially sighted person, and they buy 
>> an expensive program that they can use with their vision, and their vision 
>> gets worse, then they have to spend big bucks to get a different program. I 
>> see no reason why the disabled community should support that kind of 
>> attitude.
>> Regards
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:45 PM, "David Tanner" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, Kurzweil upgrades are quite reasonable.  Regardless of what version 
>>> of the software you have the upgrade price is $125.  So, if you are at 
>>> version 6 you can go all the way to version 12 for $125 and if there is a 
>>> new version within a year I believe that you get it for free, but don't 
>>> take that for absolute fact .  I am not a Kurzweil dealor and I may be 
>>> wrong on the free upgrade to the next version if it comes out within less 
>>> than a year.  But I do know the upgrade price is $125.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> No, I haven't upgraded in many years, didn't think the accuracy of OCR 
>>>> really improved all that much necessarily, only used it for scanning mail 
>>>> once in awhile, but all in one printers sure scan slower than any scanner 
>>>> I've used before. I wish I knew where I put the big box that probably had 
>>>> version 6 in it, but if it's like Jaws or anything else I'll end up with a 
>>>> new disk when I purchase the upgrade. I hope those are still reasonable 
>>>> yet.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> It is alive and well...  Do you have version 12 patch 4?  That is the 
>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera 
>>>>> in that patch upgrade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good.  There is 
>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think 
>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not 
>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy 
>> 
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