My Refreshabraille is working just fine with 5.1 Jane
On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working > with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently > working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. > > On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a >> ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a >> tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered >> computer with the coal hopper? (grins) >> >> Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For >> me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra >> weight. >> >> Teresa >> >> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >> >> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having >>> something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at >>> $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I >>> gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth >>> consideration. >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a >>>> Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille >>>> display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my >>>> iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I >>>> am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. >>>> As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and >>>> straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line >>>> about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less >>>> expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate >>>> getting it. Thanks. >>>> (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) >>>> >>>> Christine >>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I >>>>> couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. >>>>> >>>>> I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 >>>>> Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least >>>>> $5000 US. >>>>> >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but >>>>>> apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are >>>>>> footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're >>>>>> missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, >>>>>> New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, >>>>>> visit >>>>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I >>>>>>> think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more >>>>>>> money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going >>>>>>> to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how >>>>>>> many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille >>>>>>> proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I >>>>>>> could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 >>>>>>> or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry >>>>>>> around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You >>>>>>> would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the >>>>>>> luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I >>>>>>> have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display >>>>>>> that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to >>>>>>> carry the display around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the >>>>>>> least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with >>>>>>> VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't >>>>>>> believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program >>>>>>> could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and >>>>>>> somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many >>>>>>> as VoiceOver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that >>>>>>>> there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more >>>>>>>> reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for >>>>>>>> $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 >>>>>>>> cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is >>>>>>>> a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing >>>>>>>> House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a >>>>>>>> very well made display. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for >>>>>>>> many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where >>>>>>>> more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, >>>>>>>> at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille >>>>>>>> display without help from somewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Mannion" >>>>>>>> <mannion...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>>>>> I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I >>>>>>>>> were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> my understanding that the price of braille displays are just >>>>>>>>> rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then >>>>>>>>> some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be >>>>>>>>> able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at >>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>> I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my >>>>>>>>> near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up >>>>>>>>> in frustration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/2/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Gatteys" <jgatt...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all! >>>>>>>>>> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just >>>>>>>>>> downloaded a >>>>>>>>>> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It >>>>>>>>>> worked with >>>>>>>>>> my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a >>>>>>>>>> document. >>>>>>>>>> I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but >>>>>>>>>> for basic >>>>>>>>>> stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of >>>>>>>>>> fine reader. >>>>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> latest release and there is some support for at least one digital >>>>>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>>>>> in that patch upgrade. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is >>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they >>>>>>>>>>> will not >>>>>>>>>>> release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a >>>>>>>>>>> copy of >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to >>>>>>>>>>> make it >>>>>>>>>>> worth it for them to do that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding" >>>>>>>>>>> <br...@hostany.net> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old >>>>>>>>>>>> Epson >>>>>>>>>>>> Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's >>>>>>>>>>>> true >>>>>>>>>>>> that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>> have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I >>>>>>>>>>>> ever went >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> back to college, I'd seriously look into a sighted person over >>>>>>>>>>>> what I >>>>>>>>>>>> have now. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:30 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: A Question Regarding OCR >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also >>>>>>>>>>>>> obtained >>>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both >>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenBook >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>>>>>> acquisition experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that >>>>>>>>>>>>> allows >>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>> to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it >>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for >>>>>>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on and on but ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am >>>>>>>>>>>>> wondering >>>>>>>>>>>>> if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have >>>>>>>>>>>>> put my >>>>>>>>>>>>> scanner away for good. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> 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