No signature seen here. Iona, I also have this same problem. Having the checkbox unchecked for threaded mail does help but you're right; it still marks them as read when you cursor by the single messages. I have number of preview lines set to None but still have the problem. When I asked about this some time ago on another list, it had been suggested that I use classic mode. Not sure I want to go that route and besides, it still marked messages read as I went by them so I find myself sticking to mutt on my linux box but that's hardly the solution here. Another thing I have done which keeps mail from being marked read is to turn off the VO cursor tracking with BO-Shift-F3 and use VO - arrow keys to scroll down the list and hear the subject fields and I think most of the time, hear the message status flags too. But then you would have to bring the live cursor down to catch up with VO and proceed the ones you want. Again, this is also quite awkward.
I would be interested in more ideas to deal with mail on Lion. I think in the Apple world, the mail app on the iPod is better than the one found on the mac. On 3/30/12, Jennifer Perdue <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I like to use the VO J command to go from message title to message content. > It makes things a lot faster for me. > > Oh, can someone tell me if my signature is going through? > > Thanks. > On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > >> Thanks this makes more sense, but this does not solve single messages >> being marked as read. As workaround I turned off completely the content >> column and just open the messages I want with command o. Still should >> there be an other method to do this without turning that column off >> completely I would love to hear about it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ioana >> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >> stores. >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Sorry; I wasn't clear. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked. >>> >>> Teresa >>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>> >>>> HI Teresa, >>>> >>>> I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as >>>> I open a conversation. This would not solve my problem rather make it >>>> worse. When I do this every message or conversation is marked read as I >>>> vo through the list. >>>> Maybe I was not clear in detailing my problem. I will try to explain >>>> again my issue: >>>> In message column I use vo left and right to navigate the list and as I >>>> do this messages are marked as read, although I did not tab to the >>>> preview colin or open them in any way. I would like to avoid this and >>>> keep them marked as unread. Can this be done? >>>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Ioana >>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most >>>> online stores. >>>> >>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Ioana, >>>>> >>>>> In Mail Preferences, go to the View tab and press VO-space. Navigate to >>>>> the checkbox: "Mark all messages as read when opening a conversation." >>>>> This is assuming you have your messages grouped into conversations. >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have turned message preview to none in view preferences. However, >>>>>> wen I vo through the list of messages if they are not part of a >>>>>> conversation, the messages are marked as read. Can I avoid this? It >>>>>> makes sifting through mail confusing since often I am looking for urea >>>>>> messages and some show up as read although I just past them with vo >>>>>> >>>>>> THanks for your help, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ioana >>>>>> >>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most >>>>>> online stores. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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