Hi Ricardo, I've come up with something else for you to try. Some time in Snow Leopard, Apple stopped supplying the default Java libraries. I've checked under my System Information, and I have a separate installation of Java Preferences (version 14.1.0) installed on my Mac. I installed this separately (maybe before even trying Stanza). I don't remember whether I rebooted after installing, but the symptoms you describe sound as though either Java runtime download and installation was problematic, or that it didn't take effect as far as the system was concerned.
Try the following: 1) Use Command-Shift-U in Finder to go to your "Utilities" folder, and then press "j" to navigate to "Java Preferences" 2) Open "Java Preferences" with Command-Down arrow 3) If Java is not installed, you should get the error message: "To open "Java Preferences," you need a Java runtime. Would you like to install one now?" 4) If you click on the "Install" button Java runtime should be installed. OK, here's the kicker. I now remember that there's an accessibility issue in being able to view the entries in the "Java Preferences" menu on the General tab (that you get on opening). If you navigate with VoiceOver, you get a message, "Java applications, applets, and command line tools use this order to determine the first compatible version to use." Then you navigate to a place that says "Scroll area", and next "Drag to change the preferred order". If you interact with scroll area, you get an announcement about "empty table". You can screen capture the window, and send it to ABBYY FineReader Express to OCR the content, but that's scarcely acceptable. What you should find listed (from external documentation) are two items for Java SE 6, with the first item listing a 64-bit CPU type item, and the second item listing a 32-bit CPU type item, both for (currently) version 1.6.0_29-b11-402. Since you can't view these listed items with VoiceOver, you also can't do anything about re-arranging their order in the table (that appears empty to VoiceOver). I recall encountering this problem with Java libraries back in Leopard. Is it possible that you're running in 32-bit mode? If so, that could explain the problems. If you don't have Java runtime installed, or if you are using a version that is not appropriate to your machine, you'll get all the problems that you listed when trying to use an application that requires it: 1. Failures to launch 2. Prompts to install Java runtime when attempting to use the application 3. Application hangs on quit. This sounds like an instance where you want to call the Accessibility support number. I will say that I didn't do anything to try to change the Java run time libraries except to install them, and that I boot up the MacBook Air 13" (late 2011 model) normally, and Stanza runs. The only other thing I can suggest is trying to reboot into 64-bit mode. And you can use Activity Monitor to kill off the hung applications. Sorry not to have more suggestions. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Apr 5, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Thanks Esther, > > Now I'm at a complete loss. The app still won't open. The first time I ran > the app, it said I needed to download Java run time, so I did. The > installation was successful. Then the app wouldn't launch. It doesn't show > up in the app switcher. When I press command tab, I hear it say stanza and > when I go to force quit, its in the table saying not responding. > > Ricardo Walker > [email protected] > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo, >> >> OK, here's the link to the Stanza.dmg file that I used to install Stanza >> desktop on a 13" MacBook Air running Lion, OS X 10.7.3: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/460554/Stanza.dmg >> It shows up under Mission Control right after my Dropbox installation, which >> I think was done in mid-February. Had to do all these from scratch on a new >> machine, because my MacBook Pro went in for service, and I thought it would >> be easier to start fresh instead of using Migration Assistant from a cloned >> backup. So the download came from the CNet site. >> >> I had no trouble opening up the duplicate download that I just tried, >> following the outlined instructions. (Of course, I didn't try to install >> the program again.) I haven't yet applied the latest java updates from >> software update, but that's the only difference I can think of, apart from >> possible machine architecture. >> >> Try this, and let me know what happens. I probably won't keep the link >> active very long, because I prefer to direct people to the original source >> for programs that are available. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi Esther, >>> >>> Yup. >>> >>> I did. Are you running Stanza on snow leopard or Lion? I'm starting to >>> think their is a compatibility issue with Lion. >>> >>> Thanks for any further assistance you can provide. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ricardo, >>>> >>>> Are you sure that you're using the correct download link on the CNet >>>> download page? Try going to: >>>> http://download.cnet.com/Stanza/3000-2056_4-198177.html >>>> Then make sure you use the link that VoiceOver identifies as "Download Now >>>> CNET Secure Download" to start your download. One of the nuisances about >>>> the download.com pages is that there are multiple items labeled as >>>> "download" links on each page, and they point to downloads for other items. >>>> >>>> I just checked that this works, and that the resulting download does open >>>> up correctly. Lexcycle's home pages have been off line since November >>>> 2011, slightly after their final update release of Stanza for iOS 5, so >>>> you can't go there for the downloads of Stanza Desktop for either the Mac >>>> or Windows any more. Sites that point to the source link, such as >>>> MacUpdate, won't work. On the Windows side there are more alternate >>>> sources, but the softonic pages seem to be a reasonable choice for Stanza >>>> desktop: >>>> http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/download >>>> >>>> I was going to put this information into a comment on the AppleVis site, >>>> along with some information on how to navigate, but just never had the >>>> time to complete my draft. I assume you're going to use this for file >>>> format conversions, which is what the app was primarily designed for, as >>>> well as an uploader for the Stanza iOS app. You can use it to read ePub, >>>> but there are some focus issues. Like, if you if you try to use the >>>> bookmarks function to move to a page, you need to move to the first >>>> visible item with VO-Command-Home in order to start reading at the first >>>> paragraph on that page. >>>> >>>> Most of the web navigation commands can be used (enabling the 1 letter >>>> navigation feature in VoiceOver Utility for QuickNav is useful), and >>>> navigation by headers works well. You can navigate by paragraph, line, >>>> sentence, word, character, etc. Hope you're not planning on using this as >>>> an ePub reader, because while it's doable if you take time to work through >>>> the focus quirks, I find the experience annoying, so for straight text >>>> reading (not interacting to review text) Adobe Digital Editions Preview >>>> 1.8 is better, or even the new paid app, Bookle, in the App Store, which >>>> is still somewhat primitive. (You don't have to press an arrow key to >>>> read the next page, the way you currently do in Adobe Digital Editions >>>> Preview, but it's irritating that, for example, you can't move back from >>>> the start of a chapter to the last page in the previous chapter with one >>>> key press -- you get taken to the start of the previous chapter.) >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've been trying to get Stanza for the Mac with no dice. When I try to >>>>> get it directly from there site, I get a safari can't connect with the >>>>> server message. I downloaded it from download.com but, it crashes with >>>>> out even opening. I have to force quit it. Can someone send me the >>>>> Stanza app via dropbox? I'm appreciate it. >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>> >>>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
