This is true. But I think most will agree who have used word and pages, you have to jump through many more hoops to get certain tasks done in pages. A lot more 6 and 7 step processes. From an accessibility stand point,I think iWorks just need to be streamlined, so one don't have to rely on so many work arounds. For example, I asked if there was a way to jump to different coordinates in Numbers. The answer is no. But Anne was gracious enough to share a work around for the list that would allow you to find text written in a cell. Here goes that work around.
"Here's how to find specific content, Turn cursor tracking off; Press Command-f and enter search term; Navigate down and interact with scroll area; Interact with table: Find desired result; Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space); Stop interacting with table and scroll area; Navigate up to next scroll area; Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item; You will be on the selected cell; Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell." Now, to do exactly what I originally was looking to do in numbers in excel with Jaws, you press control G, enter coordinate, and press enter. This is what I mean by these work arounds need to be streamlined into efficient, accessibility. BTW, I'm not an office suite power users so, some of these observations might be more relevant for those who are. JMO. Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it is also worth pointing out that Apple is still working on the next > release of the iWOrks suite and will no doubt address some of the > accessibility issues that do exist. Overall I would say the entire suite is > reasonably accessible and of course accessible is a little subjective as > well. And we cannot forget that some of the perceived accessibility issues > may relate to experience (or lack there of) in using the iWOrk applications. > Not a negative comment, simply a point to be considered. > > On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Gigi wrote: > >> Hi Anne. >> I agree that Pages and Numbers work just fine. In fact, I like them better >> than Word and Excel. Numbers accepts Excel formulas, but in many cases, you >> can use tyhe function of Insert plus Function. I love that. The other thing >> is that VoiceOver is not as complicated as, say, Jaws to set up the talking >> of the rows and columns. >> >> I did, however, have trouble Pages on tables because, although I although I >> got my columns of different widths to work within Pages, I found that if I >> exported the file to Word, the width of the columns got changed. In my case, >> I'm just not going to worry about it because I have a work around. If I had >> been just using Pages, things would have been just fine, and maybe I just >> don't know what I'm doing. I think my tables would have worked find also if >> I had been printing them. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Steve, >>> >>> On 8 Apr 2012, at 11:02, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>> I hear about Pages >>>> and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table >>>> manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here >>> >>> I'm so tired of repeating myself, but I use Pages all the time in my >>> capacity as a professional translator. Any tables I find in a document I >>> copy into Numbers so that I keep the formatting correct. I manipulate the >>> table in Numbers, then copy it back into Pages. It doesn't take long and >>> works fine. >>> >>> Like any decent office suite, iWork takes time to learn and people just >>> haven't got the patience. >>> >>> Yes, there are problems with the iWork suite. A group of VO commands >>> doesn't function such as looking for next colour change so I compensate for >>> this by using TextEdit to read my source document, but I have no trouble >>> formatting in Pages. >>> >>> I do think it's about time Apple brought out a new version of iWork. The >>> current one is 3 years old and I'm afraid when they do, it's going to be >>> more like the IOS version but I'll just have to wait and see. >>> >>> Anyway, to finish with iWork for the Mac, Keynote is also perfectly >>> manageable for a totally blind person. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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