Hi Alex, Jonathan and others,
This is a great thread but I must say that I still think it would be
very very helpful to be able to have the Voice Over key be one key. I ordered
a full USB keyboard about a year ago so that I could use the num pad commander.
I like it a lot, but frankly, I would not need it if the Voice Over key could
be assigned to the caps lock key. It is a matter of keeping my fingers on the
home keys. I'm much faster on the keyboard if I can just leave my fingers on
the home row and type away. But with Voice Over keys needing two fingers I
just can't do that. Further on the portables VO keys are only on the left
side. this forces me to do all kinds of finger contortions to do a simple
command. I'm glad Voice Over gives us lots of ways to do things. I use them
all but, every 6 months or so I write to accessibility@@apple.com and ask
please please can I have the caps lock key assignably as the VO keys? It would
be great to have this be one more VO option.
It was a thread like this one that caused me to purchase a full size keyboard,
so I could use the num pad commander. This helped a great deal. Still it is
time for me to write my next reminder to apple!
Warmly,
eRic Caron
On May 6, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> The insert key has been a legit modifier for the numpad commander in both
> Snow Leopard and Lion. I don't believe you can use it as a modifier for the
> keypad commander.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> How'd you define insert as a modifier for the commander? I haven't
>> looked recently, but I don't remember being able to add keys as well
>> as keystrokes with a modifier.
>>
>> On 5/5/12, Jonathan C. Cohn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 90% of what I need to do can be done with the numpad commander. I did add
>>> two additional keystrokes to the default Lion commander.
>>>
>>> 1. On the "3" key I added the jump command that gets executed with VO-J
>>> 2. With the Enter key I have it set to toggle betweenWeb dom and group mode.
>>>
>>>
>>> The defaults are
>>> 1. Item chooser
>>> 2. down
>>> 3. Jump
>>> 4. Left
>>> 5. Default action (same as vo-space)
>>> 6. Right
>>> 7. Interact with item
>>> 8 up
>>>
>>> 9 . Stop Interacting
>>>
>>> The 3 keys on the top row above 789 are
>>> Doc, Menu , and window chooser
>>>
>>> The plus key brings up the contextual menu.
>>>
>>> I also use the insert + numpad keys for getting to next/previous
>>> heading, link, visited link, table, control and hot spot.
>>>
>>> If there is a specific function you need help with, I can probably tell you
>>> where it is.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>> True. I don't have a trackpad, but I do have a numpad, I often forget
>>>> I set up a commander for it though.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/12, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those
>>>>> keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad
>>>>> commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act
>>>>>>> as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever
>>>>>>> the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying
>>>>>>> that "you just want windows-like control". It's simply that hitting a
>>>>>>> single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input commands is
>>>>>>> more streamlined and easier to do, IMHO. So, if it's possible to map
>>>>>>> VO comman keys to be something different, could anyone tell me how?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
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