Hi Mark,

It sure does.  I'm very pleased that that issue is resolved as well.  Great 
catch on your part.  You might want to report that to the accessibility group 
at Apple, as I'll bet they have no idea as to how to resolve these two issues.

Les
On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:10 PM, "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

> Hi Les,
> 
> You are very welcome.
> 
> I had the exact same secondary issue you succinctly described.  
> 
> Yes, changing the setting does resolve the secondary problem as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:06 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Resolution to VoiceOver Intermittently Not Reading Correct
> Number of Messages in a Email Thread
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Thanks for this.  I' also hopeful that the text of the last message in a
> thread will now be read properly.  Here's the problem I had which I hope is
> fixed.  I reach a conversation with 2 or more messages.  I expand with right
> arrow.  I use VO-J to jump to the text.  As I conclude reading the message,
> I delete it from the thread.  When I get to the final message in the
> conversation and hit VO-J, I often hear text repeated from another message
> in the thread.  It's very confusing when this occurs.  I hope this setting
> modification will fix this.  It certainly seems to have fixed that annoying
> message when there's only 1 message.  Thanks again.
> 
> Les
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I now know why VO says, for some items in the Message Table, "1 
>> Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure Triangle.
>> 
>> I also know how to turn this off so VO reads as it should, in my 
>> opinion; that is, reads the number of messages in a thread and, 
>> consequently, read the number of each individual message in the Message
> Contents Table.
>> 
>> The reason why VO says, "1 Message Conversation Collapsed Disclosure 
>> Triangle," is because, for whatever reason, by default, Mail is set to 
>> Include All Related Messages.
>> 
>> I strongly suggest that you disable this feature when using VoiceOver.  
>> To do this:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From within Mail, open the Preferences Dialog Box.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select the View Tab.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Now, uncheck the box that reads, "Include All Related Messages."
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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