But then, aren't we beginning to see some of this with Trackpad Commander in VoiceOver, and the touch modifications that are present in Narrator on Windows 8? On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cheree Heppe here: > > Designing the architecture for a useable screen reader might be compared to a > science fiction writer designing a world or universe. Wha if, though, the > original architecture of a world or a screen reader required radical changes > in order to keep pace with advancements unimagined in the original outlay? > > Could we as users manage changes that re-mapped how keystrokes accessed > function? Could a re-do of command structures be done without truly rocking > the world views of the users? Could leaving a structural legacy intact, such > as maybe keystrokes using three and four keys at a time, a pattern that must > have sprung from the early beginnings of screen reader access, harm the > future flexibility or usability of a comman structure architecture? > > What if the whole keystroke structure had to be re-done to make it more > streamlined and to allow for new access? Could we tolerate that? Or would > we be stuck in some other mode? > > If I could design an access model, it might allow screen gestures and tapping > the way an I-device such as an IPad or IPhone does, with the aded power of > the key commands and built-in features of a laptop design. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my IPhone 4S > > On 31/07/2012, at 5:51, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You'll agree that it is a big learning curve when you get a Mac. One will >> only succeed if one puts effort in. We are our own enemies. Another thought >> crossed my mind, we want our technology, we pay with it for a few days, then >> when we get board or dissatified, we bash it. Human nature! This is what is >> happening here! >> >> On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:40 PM, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My response is simple. If you are not going to report the issues as a bug >>> and are unhappy with the Mac. Then simply don't buy one, or just take your >>> current one back if it is under the time limit of being able to get a full >>> refund. Failing that, wipe it and stick Windows on the thing. >>> >>> Bye bye >>> >>> Chris >>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 12:16, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And it ain't as if there's that much to complain about really. Sure, >>>> sometimes VO won't respond to pressing VO+space, and the time line issue; >>>> but really, I think we're looking at an undercover Apple basher here. You >>>> know the type. They get a Mac, give themselves perhaps a few days with >>>> it and expect it to be a windows machine. So, when they find out it's >>>> not, they not only take it back, they publicly condemn it to all their >>>> windows friends. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>> >>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>> >>>> Skype name: >>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:15 AM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hear ye, hear ye! >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't agree more. That mail had me constantly over and over again, >>>>> saying? Drama, drama, drama! >>>>> >>>>> O, K, are there some bugs, yeah, granted I really haven't found any, but >>>>> that isn't to say I won't eventually. The point is, give Apple a break >>>>> for God sake, and before you accuse any beta tester saying, it's too >>>>> buggy, why did you all let the bugs come through... OK, Mister or Misses >>>>> Smarty-Pants? why don't we give you the source code to OSX and see what >>>>> you! can do! In other words, in less blunt terms, the beta testers also >>>>> are human. Just because someone is on the dev beta team does not make >>>>> them infalible. They, like you and myself are human. So cut out the >>>>> bashing please. I agree. It's ok to complain, but do so construtively. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello All. >>>>> >>>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am >>>>> one for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>>>> opinion. >>>>> >>>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it >>>>> is their right to do so of course. >>>>> >>>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I >>>>> have been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product >>>>> into shape. >>>>> >>>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send >>>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>>>> work with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do >>>>> that and sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a >>>>> difference. If everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So >>>>> chill and think to do something positive. >>>>> >>>>> Kawal. >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>>>> that it gets the job done. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>>>> iss about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO >>>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep >>>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail >>>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>>>> us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were >>>>>>> bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where >>>>>>> the significant upgrade is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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