One thing to remember is that the Braille Pen does not have cursor
keys, at least as far as I know. So, to put your cursor where you want
it for editing, you would have to use key commands, which gets
cumbersome.

On 8/22/12, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
> Hi,  I mostly use braille pen with IOS devices.  It's sheer smallness makes
> it less than ideal as a primary display for a computer.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2012-08-22, at 12:52 AM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>
>>
>> i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to
>> know has anyone ever  used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
>> tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
>> sincerely, chenelle
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>>
>>>   Today's Topic Summary
>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>>>
>>> Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
>>> Mouse right click [8 Updates]
>>> quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
>>> Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
>>> Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
>>> viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
>>> A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
>>> moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
>>>  Badges in YoruFukurou
>>> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 03:45PM -0700
>>>
>>> Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button.
>>> It's a checkbox that says enable real-time streaming.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:56PM -0700
>>>
>>> Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
>>> that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
>>> streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
>>> to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
>>>
>>>
>>> Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:54PM -0700
>>>
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to
>>> refresh in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work
>>> well enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually
>>> refresh all tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
>>> Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Mouse right click
>>> Mary Scott <bluespru...@comcast.net> Aug 21 06:16PM -0400
>>>
>>> Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, "How do I right click
>>> with VO?" Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
>>>
>>> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:22PM -0400
>>>
>>> Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
>>> an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
>>> don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
>>> help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> agent086b <agent0...@bigpond.com> Aug 22 08:31AM +1000
>>>
>>> Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
>>> I think I read
>>>
>>> vo-shift- and space twice quickly
>>> Max.
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Mouse right click
>>> From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com>
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
>>>
>>> Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:11PM -0400
>>>
>>> VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
>>> However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word "right".
>>> Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the
>>> command.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of
>>> your commanders.
>>>
>>> Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>> Rodney
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:15PM -0600
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be
>>> the same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There
>>> are some situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual
>>> menu but in those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO
>>> cursor, VO-cmd-f5, hold down the control key and press your Trackpad
>>> button.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> Aug 21 08:17PM -0500
>>>
>>> There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however,
>>> pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it,
>>> that's also what right clicking the mouse does.
>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:07PM -0400
>>>
>>> Hi,.
>>>
>>> What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not
>>> have any button to my knowledge..
>>>
>>> Thanks,.
>>>
>>> Ioana
>>>
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most
>>> online stores.
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 09:31PM -0600
>>>
>>> The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It
>>> just gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press
>>> down on a MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully
>>> depressed, is the "mouse-down" action. Holding it down performs the
>>> dragging action. The Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality.
>>> Pressing firmly down anywhere on the Trackpad will cause the Magic
>>> Trackpad to give a click sort of feel where you can distinguish between
>>> the "mouse-down" and regular gesture modes. So, in effect, the entire
>>> Trackpad in both cases is a button.
>>>
>>> Hope this clears things up for you.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>  quick ftp option in ml?
>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:04PM -0600
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The MacOS has a basic FTP client built in that works fine for visiting
>>> FTP sites and downloading from them. It doesn't, however, do writing to
>>> an FTP site well. I use Transmit for this. It's not free but it works
>>> well for me. There are other free options out there that others may be
>>> able to enlighten you with.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>>
>>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400
>>>
>>> Hi,.
>>>
>>> For basic ftp access use the connect to server option in finder's go
>>> menu..
>>>
>>> Best,.
>>>
>>> Ioana
>>>
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most
>>> online stores.
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>>
>>>  Deleting Bookmarks
>>> tealgree...@gmail.com <tealgree...@gmail.com> Aug 21 04:39PM -0700
>>>
>>> OMG! Thank you Alex for translating. Appologies for the horrible
>>> previously posted message. I could explain why the message did not come
>>> out properly, but I will save everyone's time and sincerely appologize
>>> for the mistake.
>>>
>>> As Alex have translated, I am hoping for some tips for deleting bookmarks
>>> in Safari. Thank you.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> cb-dsacb-ds;b2fcb-dscb-ds;b2;c cb-dsacb-ds;b2alex cb-dsacb-ds;b2hall
>>> <mehg...@gmail.com>
>>> cb-dsacb-ds;b2tocb-dscb-ds;b2;c macvisionaries@googlegroups.com,
>>> Date: Tuesday, Aug 21, 2012 03:24:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 1delet+ 1bookm>ks 9 1saf>i8
>>>
>>>
>>> > —
>>> > Have a great day,
>>> > Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>> @@@> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:11PM -0400
>>>
>>> No problem, you just typed in grade 2 into a computer braille field...
>>> Many of us have done it.
>>>
>>> As to erasing bookmarks, I'm not sure, but does vo-shift-m on the
>>> bookmark bring up a menu of options?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>  Speakable Items staying on
>>> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> Aug 21 10:43PM -0400
>>>
>>> Hi listers,
>>>
>>> I've been playing with Speakable items a bit and find it is working well
>>> for me over all.  My major frustration is that if I don't use it for
>>> awhile I need to go back to system preferences and turn it off and on
>>> again. then it works fine for a time. Later it stops and again I need to
>>> turn it back on again.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having this problem? anyone found a way to keep it
>>> working? I don't want it to be on listen continuously as it will then do
>>> unexpected things. I do fine with the key word but then suddenly it stops
>>> working and once I turn it off and on it works perfectly again.
>>>
>>> tips are greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>>
>>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Aug 21 11:02PM -0400
>>>
>>> Hi,.
>>>
>>> I would report this to apple feedback since others on this list,
>>> including me, have experienced this..
>>>
>>> Best,.
>>>
>>> Ioana
>>>
>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most
>>> online stores.
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>>
>>>  viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader
>>> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Aug 21 08:15PM -0500
>>>
>>> Hi Anne,
>>>
>>> No, I was talking about the full version. But I think I've found a work
>>> around. Thanks for responding.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>  A better way to drag and drop
>>> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 06:07PM -0400
>>>
>>> I have found something that works better than the standard VO comma and
>>> period Drag-and-drop. commands
>>>
>>> There are also commands you can sit to a keyboard trackpad shortcut call
>>> Mark item for drag-and-drop and drop item after voice over cursor. For
>>> me, he seem to work much better than the standard VO commands.
>>> I was able to move mailboxes around. Easily with these commandsHope this
>>> helps someone.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> Aug 21 07:25PM -0400
>>>
>>> Would these keyboard commands for Trackpad work even though I'm using an
>>> iMac and don't have a trackpad?
>>> Les
>>>
>>> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 21 08:58PM -0400
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> They are both in the list of commands you can assign to the notepad or
>>> the trackpad. If you have neither, try the video HH helping you and type
>>> in drag and drop and you'll find these commands.
>>> Hope that helps
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?]
>>> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 21 05:12PM -0500
>>>
>>> I would only like to add that it was possible to use command+Option+v to
>>> move files even so far back as the final release of Snow Leopard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>>
>>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 05:57PM -0500
>>>
>>> Ester, Will this work with SnowLeopard?
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 21 04:43PM -0700
>>>
>>> Hi Stacey,
>>> Yes, I bought this early on in Snow Leopard, but directly from the
>>> developer's web site, before it was sold at the Mac App Store. ray
>>> says that the "move" command works in the last version of Snow
>>> Leopard, so you could also try that out first. Copy selected files
>>> with Command-C, move to a new folder, then move them there with
>>> Command-Option-V.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 21 07:27PM -0500
>>>
>>> I just purchased Moveaddict and I love it.
>>> I'm running snowleopard.
>>>
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>>>
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