Hi,
Thanks a lot for the details. I was about to start searching list archives
to see if 1Password for iOS had been discussed. I too learned a lot about it
from the mac power users podcasts. Dr. Carter's interview with Katie Floyd
is where I first heard about there podcast and it is a great resource. Even
though I am not the one who asked the question, you certainly answered the
ones I had and I am going to buy 1password for iOS right now. It would be
nice if you have any particular tips for using it on the iPhone or any
things I should be aware of. I am trying the free windows version right now,
but expect a new mac anytime nowso I won't be purchasing the windows
license.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Erkens" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: In search of accessible password vault
Hi,
By the time of this writing, 1Password is accessible, as long as you stick
with the app itself, and don't bother with its safari extension, other than
auto filling in a login once you are on that page. You can easily google
1password, but to answer your questions: yes it is multi platform, it is for
mac, windows and ios, probably android but I'm not sure of that, and it can
sync via dropbox, amogn other ways. Having your encrypted keychain in
dropbox means, that you manage your chain yourself, and it is not stored
online somewhere. I have both the mac and the iphone version, and they are
workable. If tiny things were improved in their interfaces, life would
become a whole lot easier for VoiceOver users. But for now, it already works
for all sorts of things, like your web logins, say, for the skype site, for
your banking site, the vm ware site if you use that and all things similar,
but there's a lot more.
It can also hold identities. Difference with a login is that an identity is
similar in that it is also a keychain element, but it obviously is made up
of other fields. In an identity, you store your name, street city and zip
code, phone number etc etc, and if a website asks for those, you can have
1password fill in some or all of that.
The 1password app has essentially a simple interface, where you have a list
of things on the left, such as logins, identities, secure notes, wallet
items, software license keys and more, and if you click one of these things
in the sidebar, which is where they all are, then that contents will appear
on the right. If you open, for instance, the logins item from the sidebar,
they appear on the right, in what VoiceOver calls an object list. This is
simply a list view where you arrow up and down, to find the login you want.
You can open or edit your login info from there.
The same holds for all other items. If you want to add a software license
for example, just go to the sidebar, find software licenses, stop
interacting with the sidebar, and move over to the right. There you have an
interactable object list with all your license items so far, if any, and to
the right of that list, at least from a voiceover perspective, you then have
an add item, button. Once the new dialog opens, you'll find that you can
read all text fields in there.
I'm still looking into several work arounds to get stuff into the interface,
and yes for VoiceOver users, things have room for improvement. Where the
smooth magic is already there for regular users, we'll have to wait for, or
get involved in, more VoiceOver support. Small amendments can make a lot of
difference for VoiceOver.
I bought 1password and it serves my needs, although it is still clunky for
us in some ways.
For example. It has a strong password generator, which is handy on sites
where you either change your existing login into a new login with a strong
password, or where you create a new account. Of course, you can use the
strong password generator just anywhere, like for apps on your mac, for your
time capsule password if you have one, your wifi network etc, all strong
passwords. The password generator creates an unguessable strong password
consisting of letters numbers symbols etc, and the settings for that are
just fine and readable inside the 1password app. But, generating a new
strong password, unless someone can come up with an alternative, requires me
to leave safari on the "create account" page, open the 1password app because
you want to avoid the safari extension because of its lack of accessibility,
and then unlock the 1password app, find the password generator in the
sidebar, tweak its options, have your password generated, copy that to the
blipboard, move back to safari, find the text field for your new password,
paste it in, and hit create account on the site, hoping that a 1password
question will pop up from its safari extension and remain readable without
VoiceOver setting focus back to the site so that you can complete this
dialog, asking to save this login for future use. It is very clear how the
safari extension that comes with 1password, can make life a whole lot
easier, by being able to do everything from your browser, rather than from
the 1password app. It's just that we don't have that functionality yet as of
now.
The idea of having your own keychain in dropbox under your own control is
wonderful, as is the rest of the app. 1Password is in the mac app store and
in the ios app store if you want it.
If you become a listener of the mac power users podcast, which is a repo
with a lot of interesting talk and knowledge, then they have a promo code to
get a little discount. I'd rather not write what that is, though, for
obvious reasons. Just take a listen to mac power users, and you will hear
things you never knew before. That show is excellent, and it's what made me
buy 1password. Find the mac power users podcast on itunes, or in things like
downcast on your iphone. It's worth the listen, especially if you go back
through their archive and learn about things like gmail playing happily with
Apple mail, doing backups the right way, how to migrate your mac to a new
machine, or how to set up a new one and doing it just right. They even got
me working with automator, and I love it. They also pointed me to text
expander, which I've seen but not purchased yet, and to markdown, which is
an easy way to create marked up files, such as html, using a very simple and
VoiceOver friendly syntax. I also learned about a time capsule, and 2
friends of mine now have one as well.
But getting back to your question, this is where I learned many useful
things myself, including 1password, which I'm now using every day.
Paul.
On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Donovan Osborn <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for a password manager. Idealy I would like it cross-platform
compatible with Mac OS X, Windows, iOS. I would appreciate any
suggestions.
Sincerely,
Donovan Osborn
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