Hi Maria, Cheryl, Max, and Others, Using the Services Menu option for "New TextEdit window containing selection" actually gives you some extra accessibility features that using copy, command-tab to TextEdit, and pasting does not, because it strips out controls that are not text-related when it sends the content to TextEdit. So if you are viewing a document with embedded tables or lists, select all with Command-A, then use the services menu option for sending to TextEdit via a shortcut, VoiceOver will automatically read the entire table content or list that was invisible to you because it was embedded one layer down, and you can navigate through with full control in the TextEdit window. Another example where this sometimes works is when you have a badly coded web page that doesn't render correctly with a screen reader because the author hasn't put the HTML commands in the correct order around each element. Nearly two years ago someone posted an example of a web page they needed to read and asked for solutions. With the "New TextEdit window containing selection" services menu option, that page became readable to VoiceOver. Using Safari Reader (Command-Shift-R), most of the page became readable, but not the comments sections at the end that were readable with the first method but unreadable with the second. I think that was probably the first time this option caught the attention of macvisionaries list users, although there are postings about it going back to Tiger dating from before the list moved to Google Groups.
I use TextEdit a lot, usually in plain text mode, because VO correctly reads characters from non-Latin alphabets (like Cyrillic characters for Russian) and special symbols such as those for math characters. I'm not sure how to trouble-shoot Andrew's problem, since I'm not running the latest version of the OS and don't see this issue with TextEdit myself, but this might be due to a focus issue. At one time in an earlier version of Mac OS X, the TextEdit window that received the contents of the service menu option didn't also receive focus, but had to be accessed via window chooser menu or by doing command-tabs back to TextEdit. Are there many other TextEdit windows open at the same time? The other possibility is that this is tied to different language selections for the different TextEdit windows. I know that both Andrew and Harry use more than one language. TextEdit is supposed to be able to support different languages in different windows, so you can compose a document in one language while reading in another in a different language. Mountain Lion has been adding a lot of new language features and new dictionaries for other languages according to the multilingual mac blog pages. It's possible that there's extra time required to resolve the language resources needed for a new TextEdit window in another language, if there is more than one language in use at the same time. These are just a few thoughts, since I haven't found this issue myself. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 14, 2012, at 18:11, Maria & Joe Chapman wrote: > Hi. yep that's how i normally do it. > > > > God Bless! Maria from australia > Newbie mac user. > > > > > > On 15/11/2012, at 10:38 AM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree it should work since it is an available option but I've always >> thought that was too much work so I've never done it that way. I just select >> my text, copy it, cmd-tab to text edit or open it from dock if it isn't >> opened, and pasted. This has somehow seemed easier to me than going through >> menus but I imagine it all comes down to what one is used to doing. >> >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
