I see what you're saying. Still, macs can now get viruses, so you'll need to protect against that whichever way you go. Yes, macs are more stable, but when things go wrong you have to know what you're doing to get them back. For instance, I'll sometimes hit reply in mail and get "mail busy", followed by "mail ready". I finally figured out I have to cmd-accent twice to get to the reply window, because vo won't focus on it by default if mail is busy and cmd-tabbing fails to reset focus. Things like that which I've seen throw off new users are what I'm talking about. Again, I'm not in favor of windows in general, but where money is tight in this situation... On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mauricio Almeida <[email protected]> wrote:
> well, let me tell you a few things here: > 1: windows are n to as safe as macs are, which adds trouble for the novice > user. > 2: windows computers are much less stable than the macs. > 3: nvda isn't something she will be able to get support for,unless she enters > a list, which already involves some learning within itself, whereas voice > over's support is already with the mac. > 4: why would someone start utilizing technology with something as not > inclusive as windows if she could use a mc and be able to use every mac in > the world after that with no additional work? > > most times, you will find the money spent pays off. > > mauricio > On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Okay, please don't shoot me for this, but I think it needs to be mentioned. >> Sorry, but... why a mac? NVDA on Windows is much cheaper and does just as >> well in pretty much everything, even better in some areas (Safari, I'm >> looking at you and your lack of a flat representation). I know this is a mac >> list, and I'm not saying the mac is bad, but when you can get a reasonably >> good Windows laptop for $300, or the basic mac laptop for $1000, and where >> money is an issue... well, you see where I'm coming from I hope. >> On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi y'all >>> I have a blind friend who I think is totally blind, at the very least close >>> to it. She's not quite ready yet to get her technology, but she and I have >>> agreed we're going to visit that issue in June when I am going to Houston >>> where she lives. This friend, in my opinion, needs a Mac or an iPad because >>> she can't get training because of you know why and has limited computer >>> skills now. Money is an issue for this lady, so we need to get the best for >>> her for what she can do. >>> >>> If she gets a Mac of any variety, she can sign up for one to one training >>> and go there once a week if needed. I know there are some issues with this >>> for VoiceOver users, but I think if we have a nice talk with the manager we >>> can get someone who is willing to work with her who is willing to take some >>> extra effort and would consider it fun. Of the two Mac computers, the Mac >>> Mini and the MacBook Air, which one would you guys consider the best for a >>> situation like hers? If she gets an iPad, she would probably need to rely >>> on her blind friends who have iPhones and/or iPads to help her. I don't >>> think this lady can take the group classes Apple offers for IOS devices >>> like the iPhone because I don't think she could keep up, given her current >>> computer knowledge. This lady is in her seventies and has decided to move >>> into the 21st century because she is seeing a need for email. >>> >>> Thanks guys for your opinions on this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
