you can set VoiceOver to speak at the logon screen. in system
preferences/Users and groups from the users, groups and login options list,
select login options.
then arrow over to the checkbox "use voice over in the login window". If the
option is dimmed, you'll have to "unlock" before making changes. At the far
right, you'll find a checkbox or button that says "click the lock to make
changes. in that dialog you'll be able to enter your password and press
enter. Now, you can check the VO at login checkbox.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheree Heppe" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth
as possible
Cheree Heppe here:
This topic comes at a great time, as, with this newly acquired MaccBook Air,
I am experiencing difficulties.
First, when the MBA turns on from a shut down, there is no audio signal to
indicate that it is at a log-in screen or that it has come on at all. It
seems that there should be a setting in VoiceOver to speak on start-up; or,
a means to install something that will make a sound or tonal sequence, etc.
What is the actual situation?
Commands in the built-in tutorial use keystrokes of three or more keys
simultaneously to engage or perform one action. I have the usual compliment
of fingers for a human, but, this is a lot like clumsy and slow to me. Are
there other sets of command structures that would add more fluidity to the
command keystrokes?
The tutorial is where I started, but I didn't get far for the reason that
when I had to break off for some reason, I could not come back easily to my
stopping point.
The reps at the Apple store have valiantly struggled through two hour-long
sessions and we all were getting pretty discouraged and frustrated.
Without having a strong basis yet, it nevertheless seems that the IOS
platform works far more intuitively and fluidly or integratively. The MAC
platform seems compartmentalized and piecy in the way blind users have to
access the usage. The trackpad will speak elements, but response time
between one's touching an element and the speaking of what's under a finger
is so sluggish that the finger could have, and probably has moved on and
misinformation occurs. Touching with the MAC trackpad does not respond
anywhere near at the speed or fluidity or seemlessness that the IOS devices
do.
Suggestions welcome.
Regards,
Cheree Heppe
Sent from my IPhone 4S
On 09/01/2013, at 10:01, "Phil Halton" <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes,
1) take the VoiceOver tutorial by pressing VO, Command, F8
2) repeatedly read the mountain lion with VoiceOver manual. It can be found
on Apple's website, and also under the VoiceOver help menu (VO H)
3) make liberal use of the keyboard help function (VO K)
4) , explore and get very frustrated over and over again until frustration
goes away.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hole" <[email protected]>
To: "MacVisionaries" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:28 PM
Subject: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as
possible
Hi folks.
As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping
blind people switching from Windows to Mac.
Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver
commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows
platform, and learn Mac the best way there is?
For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the
QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some
times?
What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software
(such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts
with it before going into apps?
All comments on this is really welcome.
Best regards David
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