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On 16/01/2013, at 2:24 PM, Yuma decaux <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi barry,
> 
> 
> 
> You mentioned being able to use interface builder with voice over. Have you 
> been doing it with the mouse/drag and drop or by code? If the latter, can you 
> provide me a link i can read on it? I have spent yesterday evening/night 
> figuring out how to work it with vo and reading on a lot of guides and 
> example ui elements.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
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> Best regards,
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> Yuma 
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> On 16/01/2013, at 12:09 PM, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Harry,
>> 
>> I know that this post is kind of old , but it doesn't look like you
>> ever got an answer, and I think I can help.
>> 
>> First of all, you can read the output of your command line program in
>> the debug console.  In the source group, move the vo cursor until you
>> here it say "debug" and interact with it.  Then move vo until you hear
>> "debug console".
>> 
>> As far as learning programming goes, it sounds like you have the right
>> approach.  Learn the basic mechanics and program structures such as
>> loops, functions, pointers, etc.  Then start learning about object
>> oriented programming.  There are lots of different oop languages out
>> there and they all have their own syntax, but the most important thing
>> to focus on is the concepts of oop.  It certainly takes a lot of
>> practice, but I think that you will find that it is easier than you
>> think.
>> You can use interface builder with vo to design an interface, but I
>> wouldn't recommend you do much with that until you are very
>> comfortable with oop concepts.
>> Hope that helped.
>> 
>> 
>> Harry Hogue wrote:
>>> Hello, guys,
>>> 
>>> First, I am completely new to programming, and I've heard that it is best 
>>> to start with learning C programming and then move to Objective C which is 
>>> what is used for OSX and IOS.  I have downloaded Xcode 4.5.2, I think it 
>>> is, and was wondering if there are any general suggestions for using it 
>>> with VoiceOver.  Since much of the interface is dragging and dropping, my 
>>> instinct says that coding instead would be the more logical, if 
>>> time-consuming choice.  In this way, the programmer would have a better 
>>> idea of exactly where on the screen things appear, etc.
>>> 
>>> Since I am completely new to programming, I would like to get started in a 
>>> way that is helpful.  I have looked at C programming tutorials, but when I 
>>> try and test the command line tool template program @HelloWorld,@ I get the 
>>> message, @Build Succeeded@ but nothing else from VoiceOver.  Something 
>>> tells me the message appeared and then went away, as it is supposed to, but 
>>> VoiceOver never read it.  For purposes of playing with code and testing my 
>>> code, how should I approach this_  is there a certain file(s) I should be 
>>> inputting code into as I read tutorials online, and a certain way to test 
>>> them or a place to test them with VoiceOver so they will be read by 
>>> VoiceOver_
>>> 
>>> Again, I am just wanting to play around with the basics, here.  it 
>>> fascinates me.  I have no plans for creating much of anything -- 
>>> programming takes years and years of practice, and, more importantly, 
>>> errors and learning how to redo code and debugging to get it right.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any pointers, guys.
>>> 
>>> Harry
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